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Unfortunately, I was already 10% down on the M2C and my M2 was sold four months ago. Add that to the fact that I work for a tuning company in the Netherlands, I honestly believe the package can be made decent and I think it is interesting choice to tune. All my cars I have had in my life have been tuned and I would have tuned any car I would get, I am just annoyed it so crap out of the box and I need to throw more money and time at it. I will enjoy the tuning time no doubt and I hope to inform everyone here well in their choices. MR |
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All in all, I am going a slightly different route hahah Akrapovic first with sport cats, and then a custom tune from my own tuner colleague in the Netherlands. We are already testing options and I hope to have the first results before the end of the year when my M2 is back from Akrapovic. Let's unleash the animal over time. It will be a fun and much longer process than initially anticipated, but it will create something that might well be the best BMW creation of the last ten years. Who knows, but for now let's start the process and see where this ends. I am looking forward to it. MR |
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09-25-2018, 02:41 AM | #115 | |
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But my aim is not power... I want engagement, experience and handling. If I want power, I will drive one of Tim's cars (Shmee). I have that luck. MR |
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09-25-2018, 02:53 AM | #116 | |
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And have name dropped other tuners / manufacturers that Im sure the tuning company you work for have agreements with? Okay, heres my predicted outcome, youll come back with the perfect car, how it should have been out of the box and those involved in making it so will get free advertising on here and likely additional sales. Which explains the over-exaggerated writing style, the focus on any negative and pretty much makes your independent opinion worthless in my opinion. |
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09-25-2018, 03:06 AM | #117 | ||
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As an ex-journalist with 15 years experience, I would not say I am biased. I have preferences based on experiences and I share that with anyone that asks me a question. We together can point 20 other people here with the same background. I can tell what you should get and what not based on my experience or guide you to the right people across Europe on both MINI and BMW subjects that know a lot more than me... I would immediately push anyone to Ryan at IND, to Imran at Evolve in Lutton, Iain at Litchfield, Oliver at ACS or Christoph at Manhart Performance. None of these people I have any business incentive with... I am a customer and a content producing contact with Shmee150. Just ask me what you need and I can help you while respecting your preferences. In the end, I am not making a cent on any of this. In return I always give people my commission as their discount, if they ask me for a contact to get a specific part. Anyone would do that in this community. And that is even if there is a some discount offered to me and the client. Doesn't happen often as far as I know. Best example is that I spend 20K EUR to rebuild my MINI to a track specification over the last 1.5 years and a majority of the work was done by my colleagues in the workshop. There is no favorable treatment. Nor do I give them mine at my business side. Also my MINI is not the perfect car, lol does such a thing even exist. I respect your opinion and I see your points, but I ensure you I can not run down your road. I would not feel good about it. This is also fun and a hobby. Into the future I will be giving comments on the work done to my car. If I am not happy, I will share that. If I am happy, I will as well. I leave it up to you to enjoy this or that, if you can't then don't open this topic anymore... MR |
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Next to this all, what else is there to mention...
- Reserving camera, damn that quality is much better than before - Again those seats... much better than before - New headlights, better visibility than on my OG M2 - PDI was not done properly by the dealer. I spotted more places yesterday where there is glue residu from the protection films and they had forgotten the two little films on the M2 logos on the seats. - There is a little message when you switch on the car that says you have limited power and that full power will arrive soon. First time I have seen that. It wasn't there on the press car I believe. I remember the OG M2 being limited on revving for about 30 sec to a minute and then you could go full on. They should have made that something cooler, like... "Full M Power being loaded" - The place to put my front plate is rather slim in all honesty. It fits and I could screw in a plate holder but I don't want to do it. For now it is double sided tape that does the job. Still I was amazed that the standard plate holder that came with the car doesn't really nicely fit well. There was a SO sister car that was handed over at my dealer and the sales guy who sold it said he did not know how to fit the plate. I showed him my solution, but he wanted to screw it on. Still the space is smaller than the OG M2. Overall it runs beautifully. Not one hickup over the past days and within the first 1K km. Krizzie has it now and he will do the running in service while I am gone on a business trip. Gives him the option to do some comparison with his OG M2. All in all, small things, but I have noticed them. MR |
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I confirm this statement on my car also (EU spec) |
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Hey, come on, guys... MR has always been 100% upfront with all of us in terms of his industry ties. Moreover, although I haven't been on this forum for very long, I've seen a number of instances firsthand where he's gone out of his way to help other members with their needs. He's one of the only true enthusiast "journalists" around, and on top of that, he's actually KNOWLEDGEABLE, which we don't see with any of the other industry figures!!! I LOVE the M2C, and disagree with MR's review. In fact, if he ever comes to San Diego, I'd settle our disagreement via trial by combat... and then we'd have some cognac together. But, nonetheless, I respect his opinion and his review and I don't question his integrity. He's coming at this from a different perspective from mine, is all. He had the OG M2, which he loved and modded heavily. Then, he sold that beautiful car eagerly anticipating the M2C. And then a) the EU stuck the OPF on there, and b) BMW remapped the throttle to have less torque lower down in the rev range. I can very well imagine that if I were in MR's shoes, I might have a review that perfectly mirrors MR's. (For the record, my "review" was the exact opposite! Ha!) I mean, you have an awesome car, you're excited about the next improved generation, and then OPF and lower torque down low? Of course you're gonna be upset! And MR has said so all along - every thread he's been consistent about knowing that he's going to have do a ton of mods to get the car to where it needs to be. And MR's review is perfectly valid for all the members who are considering going from OG M2 to M2C. (Think about all the official Ascari reviews where NOBODY mentioned any of this, all they did was gush about the car because they were there on an all-expenses paid vacation. MR was the only one who was truthful about both the improvements and the handicaps.) Anyway, I really appreciate the content, and am looking forward to hearing about the evolution of MR's car, as there will be lessons learned, and then I may end up modding my car along similar lines, depending upon outcomes! * Disclaimer: I'm an employee of MR's. Just joking, guys... |
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You could just buy one red kit and one blue kit, right?
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I don't have the restricted power announcement either on startup. Must be EU.
Really curious to see what improvements the OPF removal will make overall. I think this is one of the best cars BMW have made. Currently own an S54 swapped wagon with X3 AWD and now the M2C as well. Former cars: E92 M3 E82 1M E36 M3 (3 of them, one AA supercharged) E36 318is E34 M5 E28 535is Also lots of seat time in an E46 M3. But I still think the M2C is a home run! Sorry to see that the EU cars are slacking off. |
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Did you try rolling the windows down? I am not aware that the M2C had less sound dampening, so I wouldn't think that it's reasonable to expect more noise in the cabin with the windows up (and that aren't ASD enabled). When I got my F80 18 months ago, I was shocked at how quiet it was - compared to the 981 I was coming from. However, this has been...part of the deal...for a while now. If I want to hear my F80 roar, I use those 4 buttons on the driver's side door. I also don't buy it that the car effectively feels "slow" - detune or not, S55 + 405 BHP = fast vehicle. And yes, we realize you get to drive Shmeeeeeee's expensive shit, but that's on another performance and price planet. Not really relevant here. You are definitely and obviously entitled to your opinion - especially on the engagement of the transmission, ASD levels, etc. But to suggest there's no exhaust note at all, and not roll the windows down...well that just doesn't make sense. And the car isn't slow - it's objectively faster than the OG model. No debating that.
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I think it matters a lot from where or better what car you come. Well, as far it seems the M2C isn't the holy grail for OG or LCI M2 owners....
Wondering how my own experiencw will be, coming from a 2003 E46 330Ci.... we'll see.
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i feel like I'm reading the first part of an infomercial
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