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10? Working on 40+ years here; don't expect it to mean diddly.
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Checked with my dealer here in Sweden now again. No signs of any delayed deliveries(Checked 3 different m2cs). When it comes to discount it was significantly higher than 5% for me aswell.
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Just checked with my SA as well (switzerland). They have not gotten any notifications of delay for all their M2C's on order.
My is the very first they ordered, order date 1st of june, production week 36, delivery week 38.
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So 2 cars side by side brake from say 80 mph, explain to me how the one with the brake upgrade stops one car quicker than the other? |
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08-20-2018, 02:30 PM | #32 | ||
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The comment about ABS that he made fun of was simply and correctly trying to explain that the limiting factor is stopping distance for cold brakes is traction / tires and that either set of brakes will yield exactly the same stopping distance. Now, brake fade from repeated heavy stopping at the track is where the difference will be. The larger brakes can dissipate the heat more efficiently. |
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You can Google it for yourself and learn. The person making the extraordinary claims is the one subject to the burden of proof. Established science tells us that the BBK gives increased thermal capacity. Increasing brake torque will not reduce your stopping distance. You can figure out why.
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08-20-2018, 04:51 PM | #40 | |
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When you press too hard this causes the ABS to engage, and we're back to square one. It could be fun if you try your experiment on a rougher surface, technically the lighter brake will actually stop the car faster as it will be better at keeping the tyres in contact with the road due to less unsprung weight |
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Where are the published brake tests for Comp and Original? C&D posted these numbers.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rm-test-review |
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08-20-2018, 05:15 PM | #42 |
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oB4LiBJTZv...English_p6.JPG
Cannot find the page with the 250-0 table, but you can see the first stops are all very similar and within the margin of error. Note that the BMW Series brakes are stock E92 M3 SINGLE piston caliper brakes and they perform better than the Brembo GT BBK. The graph are the heated distances. Last edited by chris719; 08-20-2018 at 05:22 PM.. |
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08-20-2018, 05:22 PM | #43 | ||
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Bigger brakes do not reducing braking distance. They reduce brake fade, and are designed to improve consistency in more 'intense' conditions - ie high temperatures. Its pretty simple stuff really. |
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08-20-2018, 05:36 PM | #44 |
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Hey guys,
Far be it for me step into a good ol' fashioned internet flame war, but I do think there is an objective answer here, without resorting to name-calling. http://www.autos.com/aftermarket-par...ar-stop-faster As I was reading through all the back and forth, my initial response was, "What? But, OF COURSE, bigger brakes will stop the car faster." But, after googling it, clearly it's not the case. And here's the funny thing... I was a physics major! Ha! The explanation contained in the link makes perfect sense, and brought back the ol' physics training that I've clearly completely forgotten over the years! But, hey, 90% of the fun of being on an anonymous Internet forum is the ability to say things to others and hurl insults that we would NEVER contemplate doing in person if we were sitting across the table from another human being. So... feel free to resume the insults, if need be. |
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