[FSU_Logan]

Alright guys, fill me in. What's with the obsession over the sub 3k rpm lack of spool (and thus torque) in the S55?

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by FSU_Logan

Alright guys, fill me in. What's with the obsession over the sub 3k rpm lack of spool (and thus torque) in the S55?

From about 2300 there is LOOOOTS of grunt. Way more than OG M2.

No worries

Cheers
Robin

[///M Houbi]

What about responsiveness? Is there a point (rpm) where you have immediate throttle response? (NA-like Immediate)

[hellrotm]

N55 is lazy up top.

BMW’s motor they whored out to their entire model lineup.

[MR.]

Originally Posted by FSU_Logan

Alright guys, fill me in. What's with the obsession over the sub 3k rpm lack of spool (and thus torque) in the S55?

It all has to do with the way you use the car and what you want it to be. The sub 3K rpm thing is because of being a hooligan and a typical BMW driver while driving at lower speeds.

More torque = more engagement = more kick in the back on a touch of the throttle = more burbles and exhaust mayhem = more look at me passing by you in town or fun on twisty mountain roads.

That is what it is all about. It is a bit of cultural thing of what people want from a BMW. Other people want the linear behavior because that is what they prefer. In the end, everyone loves something else and that is why there is choice in the world, else it would be a freaking boring place.

MR

[TheMagician]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

From about 2300 there is LOOOOTS of grunt. Way more than OG M2.

No worries

Cheers
Robin

You meant to say from 3000?

[FSU_Logan]

Who goes wot from 2300? I'm not even trying to come across rude, it just seems like people on this forum are more interested in parking the car versus driving it.

[///M Houbi]

Still no one able to answer my question?

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Steel28

You meant to say from 3000?

No sir: 2300rpm

Originally Posted by FSU_Logan

Who goes wot from 2300? I'm not even trying to come across rude, it just seems like people on this forum are more interested in parking the car versus driving it.

I'm not going WOT from 2300rpm off course, but by even looking at the right pedal it's pulling strongly. 25%/half throttle, way more torquey than N55 in that range....

So 1500rpm is low end , but 2300 is too in my book



Cheers
Robin

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by ///M Houbi

What about responsiveness? Is there a point (rpm) where you have immediate throttle response? (NA-like Immediate)

There is a slight delay. But N55 had that too.

(Semi)Immediate response starts from 3000 and more.

Better order a 488 Pizza or 720S and be done with that?

Cheers
Robin

[BishUK]

Originally Posted by MR.

It all has to do with the way you use the car and what you want it to be. The sub 3K rpm thing is because of being a hooligan and a typical BMW driver while driving at lower speeds.

More torque = more engagement = more kick in the back on a touch of the throttle = more burbles and exhaust mayhem = more look at me passing by you in town or fun on twisty mountain roads.

That is what it is all about. It is a bit of cultural thing of what people want from a BMW. Other people want the linear behavior because that is what they prefer. In the end, everyone loves something else and that is why there is choice in the world, else it would be a freaking boring place.

MR

But in the last 24hrs you've gone on record to say your M2C is now a lot closer to the car of your dreams since the M gods sprinkled some star dust on your car at the run-in service.

If you think BMW apply a software tune to the engine when having a run-in service then you might be quickly losing fans!

[///M Houbi]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

There is a slight delay. But N55 had that too.

(Semi)Immediate response starts from 3000 and more.

Better order a 488 Pizza or 720S and be done with that?

Cheers
Robin

Thank you. Comparable/similar to N55 or worse? 3000 is fine. I don't give a f... below 3000

[Mpowered777]

Originally Posted by BishUK

But in the last 24hrs you've gone on record to say your M2C is now a lot closer to the car of your dreams since the M gods sprinkled some star dust on your car at the run-in service.

If you think BMW apply a software tune to the engine when having a run-in service then you might be quickly loosing fans!

Agree there is no software change only fluids.
Anybody knows what fluid comes from factory? Could it be some break in fluid in the engine, that once change to the proper spec oil helps loosen thing up a bit, possibly enough for people to notice? I had my service done last week and didn’t feel any difference (but I am not the most sensitive guy).
I will be taking my m2c this afternoon for its first track day, stretch it’s lega and see how it performs.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by ///M Houbi

Thank you. Comparable/similar to N55 or worse? 3000 is fine. I don't give a f... below 3000

From 3000 it's pulling like a madman, immediate response and more thrust than N55.

Cheers
Robin

[boostm3]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

N55 is lazy up top.

BMW’s motor they whored out to their entire model lineup.

All depends on your use. For track days, etc, youll want that power up top; for street use, I prefer the kick in the back down low for stoplight racing and overall usability. To condemn the N55 is just foolish..

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by boostm3

All depends on your use. For track days, etc, youll want that power up top; for street use, I prefer the kick in the back down low for stoplight racing and overall usability. To condemn the N55 is just foolish..

Yeah, better condemn S55 because of its sound

N55 is not a trackday engine. It's going in limpmode on hotter days or on track. Been there done that. And beyond 6000 there is nothing left.

Great engine for a 335/535i I would say.

Cheers
Robin

[FSU_Logan]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Yeah, better condemn S55 because of its sound

N55 is not a trackday engine. It's going in limpmode on hotter days or on track. Been there done that. And beyond 6000 there is nothing left.

Great engine for a 335/535i I would say.

Cheers
Robin

I see what you did there.. lol.

I have come to the realization that 90-95% of those on these forums are total hard-parkers. I can't give racing advice when they only care about 2000-3000 rpm pulls. LOL

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by FSU_Logan

I see what you did there.. lol.

I have come to the realization that 90-95% of those on these forums are total hard-parkers. I can't give racing advice when they only care about 2000-3000 rpm pulls. LOL

Ha. Yesterday I parked my car semi hard to pick up the missus.
I started it again and heard a weird beep. It was the front PDC. I did not have it on the OG M2 and the first thing I thought: This...this is //Motorsport at its finest, the Genesis of Racing.

Cheers
Robin

[FSU_Logan]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Ha. Yesterday I parked my car semi hard to pick up the missus.
I started it again and heard a weird beep. It was the front PDC. I did not have it on the OG M2 and the first thing I thought: This...this is //Motorsport at its finest, the Genesis of Racing.

Cheers
Robin

Gotta be careful, once you park TOO hard, you can never recover.

[chris719]

The dynos show N55 only makes more torque until approx 2700 RPM, where they meet. Seems like a worthwhile trade-off to me. There is no free lunch; bigger turbo is better up top but spools up a little later.

[Davil]

If you come from a manual background with a higher reviving engine or a high boost turbo you’ll probably recognise the concept of being caught with your pants down. Aka being in the wrong gear.

That “problem” is so minimal in this car that it almost doesn’t exist.

I’m now really used to the DCT and drive it manual all the time. Not only does it put the most insane grin on my face I’ve ever had in a car but it means my pants are always up. I love this car. Every day it gets better.

[D22M2]

It’s been explained over and over again on this forum… You’re just trying to find more validation