[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by StavsM2C

Here is the exhaust diagram and the carbon Fiber tips are separate at $376 a set

Piping looks longer than what was originally photographed on that display car with the M performance parts.

[StavsM2C]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Piping looks longer than what was originally photographed on that display car with the M performance parts.

I don't disagree but I was really hoping for a cat back system if it was going to be 6k !!

[Anthony1s]

Originally Posted by StavsM2C

Here is the exhaust diagram and the carbon Fiber tips are separate at $376 a set

Originally Posted by evolved///M

I'll echo that I believe the $376 price is per tip, not per set.
But beyond the outrageous pricing here, I'm mostly intrigued by this picture. Looks like the cut location on the stock system will be similar to Remus.
Most intriguing of all - what are find numbers 3 & 8 in this diagram?

#3 is probably the control box for the valves
#8 is the rubber mounting bushing

Also what's interesting to point out is that the valves aren't located in the tips like the OG M2 MPE. So with valves closed on M2C MPE, 100% of the exhaust goes through the muffler. Meanwhile M2 MPE, a small amount of exhaust gets muffled regardless of valve position.

I was just looking at the M4 MPE exhaust and it's exactly the same routing (I dunno why I assumed it'd be different) so my guess is M2C will sound the same as it. Unless the muffler internals are different that we can't see.

[Canuckistan]

Originally Posted by MR.

Slip-on / rear section only

There won't be one in Europe. Buy another system!

LOL MPE Engineers? Meisterchaft engineers... They build and design, MPE just sends out the order to build them confirming their initial base spec.

Seen this before with MPE systems nothing new. My E82 135i had a MPE system that I needed to cut as well.

Not available for this system, you might something online that fits, but not the original system you are looking at. It only has one version of the tip!

So... what are we looking here! A MPE system that costs $4,520.00 USD excluding tailpipes... while an Akrapovic slip-on system (currently the most expensive system on the market) costs $4,827.30 USD and includes four larger carbon tailpipes. Add the tailpipes and we are at $6024 USD. I wonder if the MPE has the "wonderful" BT remote.

Now let's touch on your port install which will add another 1000 USD of installation cost??? I can see that some might want to keep their warranty, but also when it gets this expensive?? What a fail! I now understand why it took them so long. They were ashamed about price tag.

Artemis can you merge this topic with the one in the S55 / exhaust forum section?

MR

It would be good if they gave the MPE factory option/port install a bundled lower price. Here in Canada, the MPE for the M2 came out at $3500 for the factory option, but if you wanted to buy it for your 2016 or add it to a regular exhaust spec car, then it was like $6k + install. At $3500 CDN for that exhaust with tips was a no brainer and had huge uptake. I hope BMW learned that lesson.

[mhanism]

While true, the M2C MPE is a lot closer to the F80/82 model than the OG M2 MPE, a couple differences from the F80/82 MPE that are noteworthy:

1 - M2C MPE does not eliminate the rear resonator like the F80/82 variant did, and thus has less piping to it. I believe this added more loudness/depth to the overall sound.

2 - The F80/82 variant was also full Ti - maybe not a huge deal, but probably added some higher end tone to the overall sound.

3 - The two MPE's probably come from different manufacturers - probably not a big deal overall.

4 - While ANYTHING would look better aesthetically than the stock exhaust, it still bothers me how the MPE hangs down more than it should, esp. when considering all of the other third party options do a much better job of hiding the exhaust. For the price point, you'd hope BMW would come out with something more exotic looking and svelte.

Add all that up and I wonder why the price point is still so high @ $6K MSRP to what boils down to a true axle-back exhaust. A price point in the mid $4k range would be more reasonable. Sure some parts departments will sell for less, but still seems awfully high value wise. I'm certainly interested to hear how it sounds, and hopefully it's incredible, but given its botched and delayed release, I'll most likely be taking my monetary talents elsewhere...

Originally Posted by Anthony1s

#3 is probably the control box for the valves
#8 is the rubber mounting bushing

Also what's interesting to point out is that the valves aren't located in the tips like the OG M2 MPE. So with valves closed on M2C MPE, 100% of the exhaust goes through the muffler. Meanwhile M2 MPE, a small amount of exhaust gets muffled regardless of valve position.

I was just looking at the M4 MPE exhaust and it's exactly the same routing (I dunno why I assumed it'd be different) so my guess is M2C will sound the same as it. Unless the muffler internals are different that we can't see.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by mhanism

While true, the M2C MPE is a lot closer to the F80/82 model than the OG M2 MPE, a couple differences from the F80/82 MPE that are noteworthy:

1 - M2C MPE does not eliminate the rear resonator like the F80/82 variant did, and thus has less piping to it. I believe this added more loudness/depth to the overall sound.

2 - The F80/82 variant was also full Ti - maybe not a huge deal, but probably added some higher end tone to the overall sound.

3 - The two MPE's probably come from different manufacturers - probably not a big deal overall.

4 - While ANYTHING would look better aesthetically than the stock exhaust, it still bothers me how the MPE hangs down more than it should, esp. when considering all of the other third party options do a much better job of hiding the exhaust. For the price point, you'd hope BMW would come out with something more exotic looking and svelte.

Add all that up and I wonder why the price point is still so high @ $6K MSRP to what boils down to a true axle-back exhaust. A price point in the mid $4k range would be more reasonable. Sure some parts departments will sell for less, but still seems awfully high value wise. I'm certainly interested to hear how it sounds, and hopefully it's incredible, but given its botched and delayed release, I'll most likely be taking my monetary talents elsewhere...

F80/F82 MPE wasn't full titanium Just the back box/muffler was titanium. Midpipes were steel.

[evolved///M]

Originally Posted by Anthony1s

#3 is probably the control box for the valves
#8 is the rubber mounting bushing

Agree on #3, but I'm not so sure about #8. There's a post for the factory hanger just forward of where #8 bolts up.

[MR.]

Originally Posted by StavsM2C

I don't disagree but I was really hoping for a cat back system if it was going to be 6k !!

It was never there... The test / display car had a backbox as well. It wasn't on the cards, because of the OPF set up in Europe. In the end, they wanted one system to rule the world and ended up to kill the system for Europe (and subsequently also everywhere else except the U.S.).

Originally Posted by Anthony1s

#3 is probably the control box for the valves
#8 is the rubber mounting bushing

Also what's interesting to point out is that the valves aren't located in the tips like the OG M2 MPE. So with valves closed on M2C MPE, 100% of the exhaust goes through the muffler. Meanwhile M2 MPE, a small amount of exhaust gets muffled regardless of valve position.

I was just looking at the M4 MPE exhaust and it's exactly the same routing (I dunno why I assumed it'd be different) so my guess is M2C will sound the same as it. Unless the muffler internals are different that we can't see.

Routing the pipes like that is the best set up between quiet and loud.

MR

[pz619]

Originally Posted by MR.

It was never there... The test / display car had a backbox as well. It wasn't on the cards, because of the OPF set up in Europe. In the end, they wanted one system to rule the world and ended up to kill the system for Europe (and subsequently also everywhere else except the U.S.).



Routing the pipes like that is the best set up between quiet and loud.

MR

If it helps any, the pricing likely kills it in the US too. 6k for the exhaust plus bmw labor rates to keep the warranty, probably at 7k after all is said and done. No thanks.

[CosmosMpower]

Well looks like I'll just get DP, Midpipe, Tune for 1/2 the price

[KevM2]

Well BMW is sure to lose business to others because of their ridiculous pricing... and I'm sure MPE will not sound any better than their competitors. Now that MPE is prohibitive for me due to price, I have to consider DINAN

[DSOmegaX]

Cheapest can find is 3390. The tips seriously just kill the pricing on it.

[StavsM2C]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

Cheapest can find is 3390. The tips seriously just kill the pricing on it.

Yeah I didn't wanna go into showing everyone cost ! But glad you did

[AUSf22]

I've worked in the parts department too, so approx 35% profit for retail customers. I wonder what trade customers get it for, 25% ?

[five3three]

Seems like it becoming available nowish we should start to see some installs soon. Can't wait as MPE is one option I'm open to.

[M-Azing]

Originally Posted by paradocs98

One thing's for sure--it will be very emotional.

Thanks for posting. I actually saw one on a regular M2 earlier today, and while it does still hang down, it looks much much better than the stock udder. Looking forward to hearing it on an M2C sometime.

Originally Posted by paradocs98

One thing's for sure--it will be very emotional.

Thanks for posting. I actually saw one on a regular M2 earlier today, and while it does still hang down, it looks much much better than the stock udder. Looking forward to hearing it on an M2C sometime.

I just called BMW Toronto today for canadian pricing on M2C MPE. $5,580 + $2,280 for the 4 CF tips = $7,860 + installation... Yikes! Hope it sounds out of this world

[ZeusBMW]

Hi guys,

I’ve got an F82 M4 M Performance exhaust currently installed on my M4 ZCP.

My question is, wouldn’t the F82 M performance exhaust fit on the M2 Comp that I also have? Obviously it would have to be cut a bit shorter but it basically looks the same? Does anyone know if it would be compatible?

Thanks!

[Ftpohyeah]

Originally Posted by M-Azing

I just called BMW Toronto today for canadian pricing on M2C MPE. $5,580 + $2,280 for the 4 CF tips = $7,860 + installation... Yikes! Hope it sounds out of this world

For bmw usa, the 19 m2c carbon tips are listed as 1,492. Unless those arent the same??
Parts number 18302456072

Edit - omg they raised the carbon fiber hood to 6.009.81!! Swear it was like 5,9xx

[omasou]

M Performance tailpipe finishers, M2/M2C comparison...

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...23&postcount=4

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by M-Azing

I just called BMW Toronto today for canadian pricing on M2C MPE. $5,580 + $2,280 for the 4 CF tips = $7,860 + installation... Yikes! Hope it sounds out of this world

Jesus, so it's just shy of 10k with taxes? Or was that with tax? Either way the pricing is nuts... I'm not sure how one can justify this.

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by Canuckistan

It would be good if they gave the MPE factory option/port install a bundled lower price. Here in Canada, the MPE for the M2 came out at $3500 for the factory option, but if you wanted to buy it for your 2016 or add it to a regular exhaust spec car, then it was like $6k + install. At $3500 CDN for that exhaust with tips was a no brainer and had huge uptake. I hope BMW learned that lesson.

Didn't know that. Fingers crossed.

[ryem3]

March, what a joke. End of May now. Seem to be plenty of 2500-3500 options. Please post if someone actually sees a unit on the ground in the U.S.