01-29-2020, 05:28 PM | #1 |
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Can't update i-step due to LCI cluster retrofit!
So my car is on ancient software and wanted to update it however my garage couldn't do it. The system would not allow update as it conflicted with the LCI guages I have had retrofitted (and coded by same garage).
They said nothing they could do and I'm a bit gutted. Any ideas on this? I have my old guages and wonder if temporarily hooking them up, doing the update then putting the LCI guages back and re-coding them is a workaround? Have not seen this mentioned before so thought I'd put it out there, if not to inform others. Last edited by 3t3p; 03-25-2020 at 06:50 PM.. |
01-30-2020, 03:08 AM | #2 |
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Whenever you're updating the vehicle's software, the system does a check to verify all the original, factory hardware is in place.
If you changed any factory modules, it has to be reinstalled prior to the update or it will be rejected. That's why it's advisable that you always keep the original hardware.I learned this the hard way when I had swap my iDrive controller with the ceramic version from a 7 series. Since you did indeed save the original cluster, just reinstall it and take it back to them to complete the update. After you reinstalled the original cluster, it's going to display some errors, including a red dot called a "tamper code" since the LCI cluster mapping was saved. You can ignore that, it doesn't need to be recoded for the update. Afterwards, when the software is updated, you can then replace it back with the LCI cluster and then recode it. |
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You just need someone to recode the cluster after the software update because it will revert back to the pre-LCI cluster mapping. |
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I'm the cynical type, so I would say they knew and just didn't inform you because they now get the opportunity to charge you twice, for the same job : Just be grateful have found a shop that's capable of doing all the programming, under one roof. I when through hell, bouncing from forum, to independent shop, to dealer and vice-versa trying to resolve my issue, which by the way, I actually figured out, by my on intuition. None of experts gave me the answer I needed. |
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02-01-2020, 10:38 AM | #7 |
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They didn't charge me that's the thing, they had my car on the ramp for an hour trying to sort it. I'll only go there for work to my car anyway and reminded them of that, that and I was grateful they didn't charge me (Darren Wood btw for UK members).
I'll leave the car be for a bit and approach them when it's better driving weather to try and get the updated software on. |
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That being said I don't see many scenarios where I'd be forced to update my istep Quote:
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I so wasn't aware that if I had swapped my iDrive controller with a ceramic version, it would be a problem. So I sold my original iDrive controller for a $100 not knowing it would be an issue, when I required any repairs on my vehicle. However, most if not all replacement parts on a BMW requires the dealer the to update the entire iLevel version, in order it to sync with the new part. Which, if you don't have the original factory hardware, the dealer's system would outright reject the programing and they you get that call from your dealer. Check the photos below, when I had swap the controller with the ceramic version, which I loved to death, they couldn't program my (unrelated) replacement part. So I had to purchase the original controller that came with the vehicle and take it back to them. It sucks but it's what it is.. Last edited by Poochie; 02-01-2020 at 06:03 PM.. |
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So if they ever need to do any programming, you need reinstall it before they complete the process. There are a couple of threads on the subject in the M4 section, when I locate them, I'll PM them to you so you can read up. |
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I can't speak on the PDC switch or the M1/M2 buttons but I'm going to assume those wouldn't be an issue either. However, the iDrive controller has its own, unique control unit, so is the iDrive itself and HVAC unit. Think, any part with it's own control unit needs to be original, factory unit. So something like the instrument cluster would have its own control unit, so that would also fall under this category. I hope this makes sense to you. |
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Side note: I had the car in for service work with all my coding and mods recently (faulty eccentric shaft actuator) and there wasn't any issue having the part replaced. I guess there wasn't a software update needed, or they were able to only update the required module and didn't have to wipe everything. |
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For instance, BMW of Freeport in Long Island NY, replaced the controller and did not program it. So when I got home and I ran the ISTA+ program and it was still showing an error. I went back to them and explain that vehicle is showing error and they need to program it properly to the replacement controller. They looked at me liked I had a third ass cheek, confused https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25278511 So I when to the dealer I originally purchased my vehicle, BMW of Ramsey in NJ, formally Prestige BMW and they did the proper programming and cleared the error. Long story longer, all dealers are not the same, some do ghetto work and send you on your way. If I wasn't this anal, I probably wouldn't of noticed but that's who I am. |
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03-25-2020, 06:57 PM | #18 |
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If I install the old cluster will it work/car be driveable seeing as it's currently coded to LCI?
Also is this tampering with mileage or is that stored somewhere centrally and not on the cluster itself? (I.e cluster acts as display for mileage only) Because otherwise I can potentially reinstall the old cluster myself and drive to the garage save them time to do the software update as they'd only need to swap clusters once not twice. |
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Maybe this is why the power fold mirrors and switch I retrofitted don't work except to cause a clicking sound in the dash, and the vehicle configuration menu to start up (which lacks the options required).
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04-19-2020, 02:06 PM | #20 |
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Not sure re mirrors.
Thor the M flasher seems a way around getting a garage to faff around with the cluster again Especially in lock down. Then again I can't take the car for a proper drive so what's the point!? Something to do I suppose... |
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But they were wrong - it was not the Euro tails, it was my Euro lightswitch. They said it may have caused them problems and weren't entirely sure if everything coded correctly. So now I'm in a habit of swapping the switch out before going to the dealer. This is irritating, because it requires a coding tweak each time it's swapped - if you don't recode the car for the specific type of switch that is attached, the FEM_Body complains that the "wrong" switch is installed, and the dealer complains about that error instead. So, if I take out the Euro switch and put back in the US-spec one, but don't get out a computer and recode FEM_Body with that change, the dealer sees an error saying the switch is "wrong" (because the car is still coded for Euro switch but it's reading a US switch). Because I'm too lazy to pull out the computer and Enet cable and worry about remembering exactly how to make the coding change, I currently still have the US-spec switch in the car... but my US-spec switch has been physically modded so the unmarked button triggers the rear fog. Quote:
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I do know that the system does block a software update, if it doesn't detect all the factory modules installed, so they aren't BSing you there.. This is noted in the ISTA software. |
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