M2 Daytime Instrument Lighting issue

M2Nebula · 08-31-2017, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

I think there are other things tied to this sensor, no?

I believe you are correct here. Remember a thread talking about this. Not sure it's the sensor on the rear view mirror, windshield side, but it has to be sensing external ambient light. If this it then the auto dimming would be affected at very least.

Destroya · 09-01-2017, 11:48 AM

Complaint filed. The design is unacceptable in this type of vehicle. I can live with it but BMW needs to know our dissatisfaction. Probably for every person who files a complaint there are a hundred others who feel the same way.

arwin · 09-01-2017, 09:31 PM

Do you think this would ever be considered as a safety recall?

Prodigy. · 09-01-2017, 10:39 PM

I doubt very much Bmw will do anything to address the issue. I emailed BMW Australia regarding it over a year ago, they just palmed me off to my local dealership who obviously could do nothing about it.

Darrenb · 12-01-2017, 04:53 AM

It's pretty obvious that BMW realised there was a problem. That's why the complete change on the LCI. Even the my wife's 2016 M135i has the speedo markings in white, hence easy to read. Even a little coding that turned the instrument lights on at start up would help alot. Typical manufacturer, head in the sand ignoring a genuine safety issue. Photo of my instruments at 5:30pm on an overcast afternoon.

bluescoupe · 12-22-2017, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bm2

Done

Also DONE
This is a real safety flaw.

Add to the instrument cluster lighting issue at the following:
File a Vehicle Safety Complaint
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/

Pyrat 2 · 12-22-2017, 09:05 AM

Done. Only 3 complaints filed to BMW on the 2016 M2 so far. All are for this issue and may be members of this forum. I just filed too so there will soon be four complaints. Would encourage others to do so.

Artemis · 01-11-2018, 07:58 PM

As there seems to exist no effective remedy for the 2016 M2 dashboard lighting issue (permanently switching on the lights being merely a minor improvement), below a couple of workarounds:

Alternative 1: get a P3 gauge (see here and here):

Alternative 2: get an AWRON (see here):

Alternative 3: get a BMW Head-Up Screen (see here and here) (remark: the mount for that official BMW device is only available for LHD):

Alternative 4: get an M2 LCI or an M2 Competition:

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Personally, I went for the discreet P3 gauge.

MZWIE · 09-19-2018, 05:29 PM

Has anyone come up with a way to make these more visible. Similar to the fuel gauge.

Major flaw from BMW on this one.

McGary911 · 09-19-2018, 05:32 PM

A few have swapped out for LCI clusters.

DanG · 09-19-2018, 06:13 PM

My LCI gages are very good in daylight,

MagnusT · 12-22-2018, 10:50 AM

Got this done today on my -16!

The speedometer backlight is now always on when the car is on. Turns itself off shortly after you turn off the car and lock it.

Very happy!

EDIT:
BR diagnostics knows how to do it https://www.facebook.com/BRDiagnosticsRetrofits/

I guess he's here on bimmerpost but don't know his nick here.

RAM_F30_F87 · 12-22-2018, 12:13 PM

How?

thedoluk · 12-22-2018, 12:32 PM

Please share, was it coding change?

MagnusT · 12-22-2018, 12:42 PM

Some microsmall soldering in the cluster.

BR diagnostics knows how to do it https://www.facebook.com/BRDiagnosticsRetrofits/

I guess he's here on bimmerpost but don't know his nick here.

Artemis · 12-22-2018, 01:11 PM

Pictures ?

MagnusT · 12-22-2018, 01:16 PM

I can take some tomorrow but it's just like when you manually turn it on but now it's always automatically turned on and off.

Dabozo · 12-23-2018, 09:40 AM

Subscribed!

MagnusT · 12-23-2018, 10:48 AM

Tried to take a photo but didn't get a meaningful one, it's really much simpler for you to manually turn on your lights in the daytme and say "aha, that is what it'll look like" :-D

Rupes · 12-23-2018, 11:47 AM

Hey guys, just fixed this problem lots of you have and it was really easy.

Can't imagine why there would be anything else I would need to say or share, so signing off for now!

Transfer · 12-23-2018, 04:11 PM

haha thread fail

MagnusT · 12-23-2018, 04:33 PM

Okay, sorry for telling you about someone that can fix the problem?

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Destroya Lieutenant 371 Rep 418 Posts Drives: 2020 X2 M35i Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Complaint filed. The design is unacceptable in this type of vehicle. I can live with it but BMW needs to know our dissatisfaction. Probably for every person who files a complaint there are a hundred others who feel the same way.
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Prodigy. Lieutenant Colonel 698 Rep 1,514 Posts Drives: ///M2 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I doubt very much Bmw will do anything to address the issue. I emailed BMW Australia regarding it over a year ago, they just palmed me off to my local dealership who obviously could do nothing about it.
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Darrenb New Member 5 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 (LBB) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	M2's Lousy Instrument Cluster. It's pretty obvious that BMW realised there was a problem. That's why the complete change on the LCI. Even the my wife's 2016 M135i has the speedo markings in white, hence easy to read. Even a little coding that turned the instrument lights on at start up would help alot. Typical manufacturer, head in the sand ignoring a genuine safety issue. Photo of my instruments at 5:30pm on an overcast afternoon. Attached Images
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Artemis Moderator 29410 Rep 13,106 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Competition Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	As there seems to exist no effective remedy for the 2016 M2 dashboard lighting issue (permanently switching on the lights being merely a minor improvement), below a couple of workarounds: Alternative 1: get a P3 gauge (see here and here): Alternative 2: get an AWRON (see here): Alternative 3: get a BMW Head-Up Screen (see here and here) (remark: the mount for that official BMW device is only available for LHD): Alternative 4: get an M2 LCI or an M2 Competition: Personally, I went for the discreet P3 gauge. __________________ ///M is art ↔ Artemis
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MZWIE Lieutenant Colonel 388 Rep 1,660 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: GEORGIA iTrader: (0)	Speedo and tech not visible in daylight Has anyone come up with a way to make these more visible. Similar to the fuel gauge. Major flaw from BMW on this one.
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McGary911 Captain 472 Rep 682 Posts Drives: 2017 LBB M2 DCT Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: St Johns, FL iTrader: (0)	A few have swapped out for LCI clusters. __________________ 2004 E46 ///M3 SMG Convertible Carbon Blk\Imola 2017 LBB ///M2 DCT 2013 Porsche Boxster S Last edited by McGary911; 09-19-2018 at 05:32 PM.. Reason: Autocorrect fuk’d me.
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DanG Major General 10661 Rep 6,937 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 AW DCT Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 BMW M2 [7.68]	My LCI gages are very good in daylight,
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12-22-2018, 10:50 AM	#232
MagnusT Captain 538 Rep 624 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Stockholm iTrader: (0)	Solution to the hard-to-see speedometer on early M2s! Got this done today on my -16! The speedometer backlight is now always on when the car is on. Turns itself off shortly after you turn off the car and lock it. Very happy! EDIT: BR diagnostics knows how to do it https://www.facebook.com/BRDiagnosticsRetrofits/ I guess he's here on bimmerpost but don't know his nick here. Last edited by MagnusT; 12-24-2018 at 01:44 AM..
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12-22-2018, 12:42 PM	#235
MagnusT Captain 538 Rep 624 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Stockholm iTrader: (0)	Some microsmall soldering in the cluster. BR diagnostics knows how to do it https://www.facebook.com/BRDiagnosticsRetrofits/ I guess he's here on bimmerpost but don't know his nick here.
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