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I live in Bexar County (San Antonio) - we don't have emissions testing *yet*, but the news seems to harp on about San Antonio continually "failing smog tests", so I'm sure plans of vehicle emissions testing for SATX is right around the corner. Our neighboring county to the northeast (Guadeloupe County) doesn't have emissions tests, but I do know for certain Austin does. I bought my 10AE Miata from there, and it's maintenance records show emissions testing w/each annual registration.
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Talked to my dealer today. He had received a detailed document from BMW explaining that the m-performance exhaust would not be available for cars with petrol engine and OPF. The document stated that the proper function of the OPF, could no longer be guaranteed if such an exhaust system were installed. I asked specifically regarding sound level legislation, but the document did not mention this.
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But, there's this... However, the document mentions that the reason for stopping sales of M Performance exhausts for vehicles built after 07/2018 is due to gas particle filters.
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06-28-2018, 02:42 PM | #73 |
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Its selectively enforced. I was an asshole to a cop when I was younger and got an exhaust ticket. Had to go to a state inspection where they measured the DB.
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06-28-2018, 02:53 PM | #75 |
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Apparently not. I 've asked from my dealership in Finland that has franchises in most of the Nordic countries + Lithuania, Latvia as well as Germany. Cannot get the exhaust from anywhere in EU according to my experience atm. UK might be the exception.
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So I can still buy MPE in the US?
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Judging from early pictures released, the OPF is fitted downstream of the downpipe. Which means the full system type M performance exhausts wouldn't fit OPF fitted cars in any case without removing the OPF. No surprise there. Also, it would be illegal for BMW to offer an exhaust that circumvented emission control systems like OPF with an accessories product. Therefore only option is to withdraw MPE (incase someone could remove the OPF fitted exhaust and fit a non OPF MPE, thus removing emission equipment). No doubt BMW haven't, as yet homologated any MPE products for the new OPF cars.....but they will surely come. |
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What's next, you can't even use MEME?
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Some facts
As a german, directly affected by this, i want to make clear some rather shitty facts ...
this is not an EU regulation, it's a german law which states that after market valve-operated exhausts can not be louder than the oem ones - under any circumstances. This does not mean you can not make your car louder. You are still allowed to buy a non valve-operated muffler which is barely legal in terms of db. BMW is stopping to sell the performance exhaust because with it equipped, the car does not qualify for the emission rules anymore and therefore is not road legal in the EU. but these are two different topics. ASD oder sound modules in general are also illegal by now in germany ... I'm really gonna need to move out of here... |
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It's a sad day when the automotive future is heading toward electric vehicles and a future where enthusiast mods will be the installation of ASD modules w/a track mode option instead of bypass harnesses.
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I just don't get the activist Merkel gang. They push aggressive painful fiscal policies on the Southern Europeans yet at the same time welcome hordes from the Middle East and Africa and provide welfare benefits. She claims to be pro-Europe, yet this decision could harm the likes of Acrapovic and others.
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I was at a friends and while there it occurred to me that the most likely reason for this was that new cars now must have a particulate filter and that the M-Performance exhaust most likely isn't compatible with this. Your info points to that as the reason as well. They have even stopped making the F80 M3 due to the need to install a particulate filter and chose only to homologate the M4 Also, the BMW info states that it's only vehicles with SOP (Start Of Production) 07.2018 that is affected by this. Last edited by Boss330; 06-28-2018 at 04:26 PM.. |
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WIth plenty of lies from Barney Rubble AKA Boris Johnson, but despite this stupidity and economical suicide, It was not over an exhaust. On the other hand Justin Trudeau invested in weed companies raised your taxes (you must earn decent coin do drive an M) and screwed you some more, because as a top earner you will now pay more tax. He made the most cash while you drive down a pothole filled 401 or if you're in Ottawa driving down a man hole filled cracked Carling ave. After which you will need new wheels. You should strongly consider voting for Ford as your next PM. So aside from my rant, lets put politics aside. Noise laws are coming in because this is progress and people will eventually have electric cars just like DCT in M cars. Sucks very much as I wanted a nice sounding exhaust on my Comp. EU still has great smooth roads and great many turns. Hot women, mostly in Poland. I wish you could experience Europe the way I do and drive through France or Germany or the around the Nurburgring. Not to mention have 5-6 weeks of paid holidays each year. |
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Fun fact is that it's the US that didn't allow laser, xenon and led headlights... Which is why one of the popular coding options in USA on BMW's is to choose the much brighter and better EU spec version in the software
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Oh shoot, yeah I found out about this a month ago when the German dealership who had originally quoted me for the exhaust for my new BMW called me a week before pickup and said they cannot purchase the exhaust. I immediately went to IND and they are shipping me the exhaust right now to Italy which will arrive next week. If you own the exhaust, BMW will install it but they cannot buy the exhaust. Oh yeah, and shipping to Italy ain’t cheap but I wanted the exhaust and IND hooked me up by cutting down the size of the freaking box which is the size of a 1999 Z3M.
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