[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by WagonMaverick

I just spent a week with 3.0 Supra blasting the Blue Ridge Mtns between Tenn and NC. Final verdict - keep the M2. I did a small write up on my experience if you search my posts.

what's the big takeaway that made you like the M2 more ? I'm curious !

[WagonMaverick]

Originally Posted by shaneguags

what's the big takeaway that made you like the M2 more ? I'm curious !

Largest negative is the numb steering - absolutely zero feedback. As a daily it looks cool, but carving the mtns I found the view restrictive, the piped in intake sound in annoying and lack of a decent transmission. Also, no sport+ and when you did turn off DSC it was not like the M2 in sport+

[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by WagonMaverick

Largest negative is the numb steering - absolutely zero feedback. As a daily it looks cool, but carving the mtns I found the view restrictive, the piped in intake sound in annoying and lack of a decent transmission. Also, no sport+ and when you did turn off DSC it was not like the M2 in sport+

honestly I feel like the steering different just because of how skinny the wheel is lol. as for intake, I never even heard it and I do agree that the visibility wasn't the best. but for transmission, I found it quite nice. I like how responsive the shifts were and how smooth it felt.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by WagonMaverick

Largest negative is the numb steering - absolutely zero feedback. As a daily it looks cool, but carving the mtns I found the view restrictive, the piped in intake sound in annoying and lack of a decent transmission. Also, no sport+ and when you did turn off DSC it was not like the M2 in sport+

That's weird because most people seem to think the Supra's steering tuning has more feedback than BMW's. I am not saying you are wrong by any means; I've never driven a Supra either.

[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by chris719

That's weird because most people seem to think the Supra's steering tuning has more feedback than BMW's. I am not saying you are wrong by any means; I've never driven a Supra either.

the steering just felt weird mainly due to the skinnier wheel. turning felt the same to me

[AlpsRider]

The new 2023 GR Supra A91-MT is coming. It weighs in at 3,389 lbs with 382 hp. My build came out to $US 60k.

Thoughts?

[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

The new 2023 GR Supra A91-MT is coming. It weighs in at 3,389 lbs with 382 hp. My build came out to $US 60k.

Thoughts?

non-tunable ?

[DSOmegaX]

Originally Posted by shaneguags

the car did feel a lot more relaxed for me. definitely less raw. the handling and power felt good though for stock

The car runs smooth like any b58 equipped car; the drivetrain is just a little more suited for daily use for better and worse. I owned both cars and the Supra was exactly used for that benefit: daily driver to my M2C's weekend blast. If the M2 is your only car, I do say yes no reason in switching; the M2 just feels special to drive if you don't mind driving it everyday.

Personally, I still have my Supra while I ended up replacing the M2C. Nowhere near a knock against the M2, but as mentioned above I kept it cause to me its just a little better at being an everyday sports car (if you don't need back seats).

[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

The car runs smooth like any b58 equipped car; the drivetrain is just a little more suited for daily use for better and worse. I owned both cars and the Supra was exactly used for that benefit: daily driver to my M2C's weekend blast. If the M2 is your only car, I do say yes no reason in switching; the M2 just feels special to drive if you don't mind driving it everyday.

Personally, I still have my Supra while I ended up replacing the M2C. Nowhere near a knock against the M2, but as mentioned above I kept it cause to me its just a little better at being an everyday sports car (if you don't need back seats).

yea I'm kinda in that situation since I don't drive many people. my M2 a daily and it's big turbo'd, def not the best daily but I don't necessarily even need a car right now tbh

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by shaneguags

non-tunable ?

Actually I think it is flash tunable. I wouldn't sell my M2C for the MT Supra but kudos to Toyota for optioning the 6MT in 2023.

[Steelguin]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

The new 2023 GR Supra A91-MT is coming. It weighs in at 3,389 lbs with 382 hp. My build came out to $US 60k.

Thoughts?

They should offer more than grey or lighter grey, the hazelnut interior I'm not a fan of.

[Humdizzle]

my experience with the supra is that its a good daily. the zf8 when left to its own devices gets around town easy. the car cruises on the highway very well thanks to the 8 gears. i took one from dallas to austin recently for the f1 race. it has no problems cruising at 90-100 and we ended the journey without feeling tired.

the trans falls on its face with any type of manual control though. the downshifts are insanely laggy. if you like to sequentially downshift coming up to a stoplight you will hate it. if you're the type to just leave the car in "D" you will probably like it more than dct. unfortunately that is how most buyers are these days.

[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

my experience with the supra is that its a good daily. the zf8 when left to its own devices gets around town easy. the car cruises on the highway very well thanks to the 8 gears. i took one from dallas to austin recently for the f1 race. it has no problems cruising at 90-100 and we ended the journey without feeling tired.

the trans falls on its face with any type of manual control though. the downshifts are insanely laggy. if you like to sequentially downshift coming up to a stoplight you will hate it. if you're the type to just leave the car in "D" you will probably like it more than dct. unfortunately that is how most buyers are these days.

hm that's actually interesting since I barely drove it in manual mode when I tested it out. I only drive in manual mode on my M2 haha

[DrChase]

ZF torque converter is a non-starter for me. Manual Supra or none at all. Manual Supra or my M2 Comp? I’d choose the Supra IF I did not need a back seat for my infant daughter. I already have a two-seater car. However, if I ditched the M2, it’d only be for an Evora GT (which I’ll do once my daughter’s car seat can safely face forward).

[Skyfox16]

I just recently went from a 21 M2C to a 22 Supra 3.0
The Supra ‘feels’ faster but I really liked both cars. I only swapped because of an issue with the m2 and it was from Carvana so I figured I’d try something by else. I’m still trying to get used to the the low roof line and visibility of the Supra.

[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by Skyfox16

I just recently went from a 21 M2C to a 22 Supra 3.0
The Supra 'feels' faster but I really liked both cars. I only swapped because of an issue with the m2 and it was from Carvana so I figured I'd try something by else. I'm still trying to get used to the the low roof line and visibility of the Supra.

how's the trans difference for you ?

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Skyfox16

I just recently went from a 21 M2C to a 22 Supra 3.0
The Supra ‘feels’ faster but I really liked both cars. I only swapped because of an issue with the m2 and it was from Carvana so I figured I’d try something by else. I’m still trying to get used to the the low roof line and visibility of the Supra.

I drove a Supra with coilovers and I was very impressed. The tranny was good but with slush bucket draw backs as usual for manual shifting.

[Skyfox16]

Originally Posted by shaneguags

how's the trans difference for you ?

I was originally set on having a manual but I don’t mind the ZF8 in the Supra. I haven’t been in a manual Supra though so I’m still curious how that feels. For me, I could live with the ZF8.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Skyfox16

I was originally set on having a manual but I don’t mind the ZF8 in the Supra. I haven’t been in a manual Supra though so I’m still curious how that feels. For me, I could live with the ZF8.

I've found that if you stay in auto mode they shift fast and allow much better highway fuel economy than the manual. My M235i with ZF8 was like a rocket in freeway traffic. However I can't wait to drive a Supra stick just for the fun of it.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

I drove a Supra with coilovers and I was very impressed. The tranny was good but with slush bucket draw backs as usual for manual shifting.

We are dialing in our Nitron R3 kits for the Supra right now - pretty impressed with the potential this platform has in it too. ZF8 not as good as the DCT on the track but was workable. Car definitely has a ton of potential in it though. I prefer the F87 still but the Supra has a very high ceiling.

[shaneguags]

Originally Posted by Skyfox16

I was originally set on having a manual but I don’t mind the ZF8 in the Supra. I haven’t been in a manual Supra though so I’m still curious how that feels. For me, I could live with the ZF8.

yea I didn't mind the ZF8 either tbh, felt smooth