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The understeer perdures for so long it's scary. It doesn't look like he backed off the gas. He seems to have trusted that the car would pull through. He even kinda leaned towards the apex to see if that would help. |
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Remains to be seen what time could still be shaved off of the 07:50 M2 Competition lap time, but true that with the M2 CS package of 763M lightweight wheels + Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 tires + M-CCB, the M2 CS has an objective advantage over an M2 Competition with 437M or 788M wheels + Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires (not even Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires) + steel brakes (original blue brakes or silver 2NH M Sport Brakes).
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Those wheels? It's a BMW and an M3/4 so is to be judged!?
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I know the M2CS here in the states starts at 85K. A GT4 starts at 100K. I think end of the day a GT4 will cost about 15K more but I also think they will hold value much better as the m3/4 CS models, though very limited, did not hold value or provide much better performance over the Competition - that seems to be the same formula here. |
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Probably the outrageous pricing and price gouging that occurred upon release for a car that could not beat it's rival (the 911 GT3) and was really not fun to drive on the street. The water injection system also proved to be pretty unreliable. To me, the motor was not special enough... basically an S55 with water injection and a tune..which anyone with a regular M4 could do for much cheaper aftermarket.
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That being said I'm ordering the slow speck car so no bragging rights for me. |
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AMG GT R - 7:11 918 Spyder - 7:13 488 GTB - 7:22 Apollo Sport - 7:24 997 GT2 RS - 7:24 Aventador LP700-4 - 7:25 Huracan LP610-4 - 7:28 991 GT3 RS - 7:28 MP4-12C - 7:28 997 GT3 RS 4.0 - 7:30 991 GT3 - 7:32 R8 V10+ (2nd gen) - 7:32 F12 - 7:33 R8 GT - 7:34 M4 GTS - 7:34 991 Turbo S - 7:34 991.2 C2S - 7:34 SLS AMG - 7:35 650s - 7:35 Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera - 7:38 Murcielago LP670-4 SV - 7:42 981 Cayman GT4 - 7:42 997.2 Turbo S - 7:44 R8 V10+ (1st gen) - 7:45 981 Boxster Spyder - 7:49 E46 M3 CSL - 7:50 V12 Vantage S - 7:52 M4 Coupe - 7:52 M5 - 7:54 W212 E63 AMG S - 7:55 Evora 400 - 7:59 CLS 63 AMG - 7:59 RS5 - 7:59 W204 C63 Coupe - 8:01 M2 - 8:01 996 GT3 - 8:03 981 Cayman S - 8:04 A45 AMG - 8:04 RS6 Avant - 8:05 Focus RS - 8:06 987 Cayman R - 8:06 Leon Cupra 280 - 8:14 Civic Type R - 8:15 C6 Corvette - 8:15 M235i - 8:16 TTS - 8:16 M135i - 8:18 RS3 - 8:20 WRX STi - 8:26 Golf GTI Mk.7 - 8:29 Megane RS Mk.3 - 8:29 Mini JCW - 8:35 Corsa 1.6T - 8:40 S1 - 8:41 86 - 8:45 Clio RS - 8:59 |
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(Off topic: I got a ride in an M4 GTS on a track day at Thunderhill 5-mile a couple years ago. From the passenger seat, it felt a little more powerful and a little stiffer than a regular M4. But the brakes were crazy farm boy strong. I felt like I was hanging from the harness.)
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They should have ditched that adaptive suspension from the M3/M4 ZCP and simply use the full suspension from the M2 CS Racing. Then we can run 10.5 inch wheels front and rear shod with 305s.
The lack of a decent footprint on the F87 M2 (M should have widen the fenders by 1cm on each side, both F&R) is the main reason why I am looking forward to the G series platform. |
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Sport Auto lap vs Factory lap. Not apples to apples. Sport Auto did a 7:37 with the GTS, which is slower than what they did with the M8.
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I wouldn't say it is driving skill, but rather seat time in the car. The factory drivers get to do many many laps to try to get the ultimate best. For the Sport Auto Supertest, the driver gets one warm up lap and one flying lap in the tested car, that's it.
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