BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW M2 Forum > BMW M2 CS Model > BMW M2 CS Nürburgring Nordschleife Sport Auto lap time (2020): 7:42.99

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-12-2020, 05:28 AM   #1
Turbomeister
Lieutenant
Turbomeister's Avatar
Cyprus
485
Rep
423
Posts

Drives: F87 M2 CS (6MT)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Cyprus

iTrader: (0)

BMW M2 CS Nürburgring Nordschleife Sport Auto lap time (2020): 7:42.99

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
Quite impressive imo.



EDIT by Artemis:
  • sirens: 07:25 (06:06 lap time) and 07:49 (06:30 lap time);
  • having a moment (5-second grass stint): 08:08 (06:49 lap time);
  • V-max of 271 km/h (168 mph): 08:45 (07:25 lap time);
  • 763M forged wheels + Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 tires + carbon ceramic brakes (M-CCB);
  • BMW M lap times (source: here):
    • 7:27.88 = F82 M4 GTS (BMW [Jörg Weidinger])
    • 7:32.79 = G15 M8 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:35 (previously 7:38) = F80 M3 CS + F82 M4 CS (BMW)
    • 7:35.90 = F90 M5 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:37 = F82 M4 GTS (Sport Auto)
    • 7:38.92 = F90 M5 (Sport Auto)
    • 7:42.99 = F87 M2 CS (Sport Auto)
    • 7:48 = E92 M3 GTS (Sport Auto)
    • 7:50 = E46 M3 CSL (Sport Auto) + F87 M2 Competition (BMW [Jörg Weidinger])
    • 7:52 = F82 M4 (Sport Auto)
    • 7:52.36 = F87 M2 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:54 = F10 M5 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:58 = F87 M2 (Car Magazine)
    • 8:05 = E92 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:07 = E52 Z8 (Auto Bild)
    • 8:09 = E63 M6 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:12 = E86 Z4 M Coupé (EVO Magazine)
    • 8:13 = E60 M5 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:15 = E82 1M (Sport Auto)
    • 8:22 = E46 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:22 = E36/8 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:35 = E36 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:50 = E30 M3 (Sport Auto)
Name:  SportAuto_M2_CS.jpg
Views: 13042
Size:  135.1 KB
__________________
///M POWER
Appreciate 12
      08-12-2020, 05:42 AM   #2
Flashstar
Brand New
Flashstar's Avatar
France
39
Rep
70
Posts

Drives: BMW M3
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: France

iTrader: (0)

Yes!!!!!!
Faster than Cayman S !!!! But slower than GT4.

http://www.biggarage.de/info/nuerbur...s-records.html
Attached Images
 

Last edited by Flashstar; 08-12-2020 at 05:50 AM..
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 05:48 AM   #3
Turbomeister
Lieutenant
Turbomeister's Avatar
Cyprus
485
Rep
423
Posts

Drives: F87 M2 CS (6MT)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Cyprus

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashstar View Post
Yes!!!!!!
Faster than Cayman S !!!!
What did you expect? It's 10 seconds faster than the Competition, and 16 seconds faster than the OG M2.
__________________
///M POWER
Appreciate 1
      08-12-2020, 05:52 AM   #4
Flashstar
Brand New
Flashstar's Avatar
France
39
Rep
70
Posts

Drives: BMW M3
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: France

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbomeister View Post
What did you expected? Its 10 seconds faster than the Competition, and 16 seconds faster than the OG M2 .
Our expectations were confirmed! There used to be doubts.
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 06:29 AM   #5
Artemis
Moderator
Artemis's Avatar
Belgium
13168
Rep
10,456
Posts

Drives: BMW M2C (BSM)
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

So my "± 07:43" guesstimate of December 2019 for the M2 CS was 0.01 seconds off.

Interested to also know the Nürburgring Nordschleife laptime of the original M2 (M-DCT) and the M2 Competition (M-DCT) when equiped with the same wheelset (763M lightweight wheels featuring Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 tires) instead of the heavier 437M or 788M wheels featuring Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
So far BMW M has not disclosed yet the official Nürburgring Nordschleife M2 CS lap time.

Some considerations:
  • FWIW: back in January 2016 a German source stated that already in 2015 BMW was testing an M2 pre-production car with the S55 engine (instead of the N55 engine) and that it lapped the Nürburgring Nordschleife "more than 8 seconds faster than the M4" (see here); remember that the Sport Auto M4 lap time was 07:52 (see list here);
  • M2 Competition lap time:
    • reference is usually made to the 07:52.36 lap time by Sport Auto (Horst von Saurma) in October 2018 (M-DCT M2 Competition - no manual) (see list here + full lap video here);
    • Sport Auto pinned the following comment under its video: "Hi guys, just one more information: The official lap time of BMW M testdriver Jörg Weidinger in the M2 Competition was 7.50 min";
  • during the closed room M2 CS preview event in Brussels (Sep 17), a BMW guy mentioned "about 10 seconds faster than the M2 Competition";
  • on the M2 CS release day (Nov 6), a Belgian YouTuber posted an M2 CS walkaround video (see here); he mentions (02:35-02:40) that the M2 CS laps the Nürburgring "8 seconds faster than the M2 Competition".
As 07:42 is the lap time of the first generation Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) (manual, of course - no PDK) clocked By Sport Auto (Christian Gebhardt) in 2015, I hope that the M2 CS manages to perform that lap time. I think that it's gonna be a close call (± 07:43).
__________________
///M is art Artemis
Appreciate 7
      08-12-2020, 06:43 AM   #6
medphysdave
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1397
Rep
1,671
Posts

Drives: M2 CS waiting list
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Charlotte, NC

iTrader: (0)

If we use the price is right rules I think I win
Appreciate 4
Poochie2852.00
Tornado1M620.50

      08-12-2020, 06:46 AM   #7
Davil
Major
Australia
2143
Rep
1,325
Posts

Drives: Various
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

7:42.5 if he didn't panic when he heard the police sirens.
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 06:54 AM   #8
Turbomeister
Lieutenant
Turbomeister's Avatar
Cyprus
485
Rep
423
Posts

Drives: F87 M2 CS (6MT)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Cyprus

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
So my "± 07:43" guesstimate of December 2019 for the M2 CS was 0.01 seconds off.

Interested to also know the Nürburgring Nordschleife laptime of the original M2 (M-DCT) and the M2 Competition (M-DCT) when equiped with the same wheelset (763M lightweight wheels featuring Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 tires) instead of the heavier 437M or 788M wheels featuring Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
As 07:42 is the lap time of the first generation Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) (manual, of course - no PDK) clocked By Sport Auto (Christian Gebhardt) in 2015, I hope that the M2 CS manages to perform that lap time. I think that it's gonna be a close call (± 07:43).
I remember that back then , accurate !
__________________
///M POWER
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 06:55 AM   #9
medphysdave
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1397
Rep
1,671
Posts

Drives: M2 CS waiting list
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Charlotte, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davil View Post
7:42.5 if he didn't panic when he heard the police sirens.
The sirens startled the crap out of me when I was watching. I thought it was coming from another office. I had never heard the noise before. It sounds like the alarm that one our radiation devices make.

He even took a little ride in the grass.
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 07:03 AM   #10
Pol
Major
Pol's Avatar
Belgium
905
Rep
1,272
Posts

Drives: M2 CS BMS DCT August 2020
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Finally... Sharp...
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 07:09 AM   #11
AUSf22
Major
Australia
623
Rep
1,278
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2C HS
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sydney, Australia

iTrader: (0)

Fast! a good 10 seconds faster than the comp
__________________
2020 M2 Competition in Hockenheim Silver | 437M Wheels | M Performance Rear Spoiler
14' 228i M-Sport | M235i MP Exhaust | M Performance Grilles | ST-X Coilovers | BM3 Stage 1 (Sold)
2011 e92 N52 | Space Grey | Eisenmann Exhaust | H&R Springs | M Performance Grilles | Stage 1 (Sold)
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 07:40 AM   #12
ASAP
Stargazing
ASAP's Avatar
No_Country
3499
Rep
4,917
Posts

Drives: M2C
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Vice City

iTrader: (0)

one word - tires
Appreciate 5
Bosozoku664.00
bjcarls333.50
dmboone254583.50
goku7156.50
njw54.00

      08-12-2020, 07:42 AM   #13
AUSf22
Major
Australia
623
Rep
1,278
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2C HS
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sydney, Australia

iTrader: (0)

There was a clench buttcheek / scary moment 8:08 min of the video.
__________________
2020 M2 Competition in Hockenheim Silver | 437M Wheels | M Performance Rear Spoiler
14' 228i M-Sport | M235i MP Exhaust | M Performance Grilles | ST-X Coilovers | BM3 Stage 1 (Sold)
2011 e92 N52 | Space Grey | Eisenmann Exhaust | H&R Springs | M Performance Grilles | Stage 1 (Sold)
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 07:51 AM   #14
medphysdave
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1397
Rep
1,671
Posts

Drives: M2 CS waiting list
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Charlotte, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
one word - tires
I would definitely like to see a stock competition on cup 2 tires for comparison.
Appreciate 7
ASAP3499.00
JustChris11144.00
ChrisK3866.50
Vervain155.50
Bosozoku664.00
dmboone254583.50
njw54.00

      08-12-2020, 08:28 AM   #15
Artemis
Moderator
Artemis's Avatar
Belgium
13168
Rep
10,456
Posts

Drives: BMW M2C (BSM)
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by medphysdave View Post
If we use the price is right rules I think I win
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbomeister View Post
I remember that back then, accurate !
FWIW: as regards the MSRP for the US-spec M2 CS, my September 2019 guesstimate turned out to be $405 off mark (see here and here).
__________________
///M is art Artemis
Appreciate 1
1M Tex154.50

      08-12-2020, 09:01 AM   #16
Artemis
Moderator
Artemis's Avatar
Belgium
13168
Rep
10,456
Posts

Drives: BMW M2C (BSM)
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davil View Post
7:42.5 if he didn't panic when he heard the police sirens.
Quote:
Originally Posted by medphysdave View Post
The sirens startled the crap out of me when I was watching. I thought it was coming from another office. I had never heard the noise before. It sounds like the alarm that one our radiation devices make.
He even took a little ride in the grass.
Added to the first post of this thread:
  • sirens: 07:25 (06:06 lap time) and 07:49 (06:30 lap time);
  • having a moment (5-second grass stint): 08:08 (06:49 lap time);
  • V-max of 271 km/h (168 mph): 08:45 (07:25 lap time);
  • 763M forged wheels + Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 tires + carbon ceramic brakes (M-CCB);
  • BMW M lap times (source: here):
    • 7:27.88 = F82 M4 GTS (BMW [Jörg Weidinger])
    • 7:32.79 = G15 M8 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:35 (previously 7:38) = F80 M3 CS + F82 M4 CS (BMW)
    • 7:35.90 = F90 M5 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:37 = F82 M4 GTS (Sport Auto)
    • 7:38.92 = F90 M5 (Sport Auto)
    • 7:42.99 = F87 M2 CS (Sport Auto)
    • 7:48 = E92 M3 GTS (Sport Auto)
    • 7:50 = E46 M3 CSL (Sport Auto) + F87 M2 Competition (BMW [Jörg Weidinger])
    • 7:52 = F82 M4 (Sport Auto)
    • 7:52.36 = F87 M2 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:54 = F10 M5 Competition (Sport Auto)
    • 7:58 = F87 M2 (Car Magazine)
    • 8:05 = E92 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:07 = E52 Z8 (Auto Bild)
    • 8:09 = E63 M6 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:12 = E86 Z4 M Coupé (EVO Magazine)
    • 8:13 = E60 M5 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:15 = E82 1M (Sport Auto)
    • 8:22 = E46 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:22 = E36/8 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:35 = E36 M3 (Sport Auto)
    • 8:50 = E30 M3 (Sport Auto)
__________________
///M is art Artemis
Appreciate 1
      08-12-2020, 09:35 AM   #17
Durham M2 CS
Private
Durham M2 CS's Avatar
United Kingdom
54
Rep
63
Posts

Drives: BMW M2 CS
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Co. Durham UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by medphysdave View Post
He even took a little ride in the grass.
Yes, I was just wondering how much quicker the time may have been if it wasn't for that little excursion??!!
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 09:41 AM   #18
elitt13
Lieutenant
elitt13's Avatar
France
147
Rep
472
Posts

Drives: 1///M Coupe & M2 CS on order
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: soutern france

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW M2 CS  [0.00]
2011 BMW 1M coupé  [0.00]
2007 335i  [0.00]
having a moment (5-second grass stint): 08:08 (06:49 lap time) :

__________________
- Série 1 ///M BSM -
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 09:53 AM   #19
medphysdave
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1397
Rep
1,671
Posts

Drives: M2 CS waiting list
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Charlotte, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Durham M2 CS View Post
Yes, I was just wondering how much quicker the time may have been if it wasn't for that little excursion??!!
Id have to watch the video again to see if he got out of the throttle, and if so, how much. That would have made my butthole pucker. I wouldn't think it would cost more than a second unless he was completely off throttle.

Edit: rewatched in slow motion a few times...kinda hilarious. He didn't seem to miss a beat. Accelerometer shows a slight slowdown, but he was back in the throttle while in the grass. Engine rpm barely dipped. If it cost anything it would likely only be .1s maybe.

Last edited by medphysdave; 08-12-2020 at 10:00 AM..
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 11:14 AM   #20
LOW4LYF
Brigadier General
LOW4LYF's Avatar
1384
Rep
3,282
Posts

Drives: ///M4 COMPETITION
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: @Home

iTrader: (1)

So a business sedan is still faster than a M2CS...lol
Appreciate 1
BigHunk173.50

      08-12-2020, 11:22 AM   #21
medphysdave
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1397
Rep
1,671
Posts

Drives: M2 CS waiting list
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Charlotte, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOW4LYF View Post
So a business sedan is still faster than a M2CS...lol
I think there are still a number of sedans faster than the M2CS on the Nurburgring from BMW, Alfa, Tesla, and Porsche.
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2020, 11:29 AM   #22
clubracer6
Private First Class
clubracer6's Avatar
United_States
41
Rep
179
Posts

Drives: 04 911 40th AE / 16 VW GLI
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOW4LYF View Post
So a business sedan is still faster than a M2CS...lol
Sure, but does that mean it is more fun and rewarding to drive? Which one wins the smile per miles metric?
Appreciate 2
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:19 AM.




m2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST