Drag Race BMW M2 vs Chevrolet Camaro SS 2017

zenmaster · 11-26-2016, 04:43 PM

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LBBDrew · 11-26-2016, 07:35 PM

Impressed by the results all around, even the rolling start

DTNJNQ · 11-26-2016, 09:19 PM

Really good result from M2 considering it has 3 litre engine with 365 BHP vs the Camaro's 6.2 Litre engine with 455 BHP.

The M2 is not about straight line speed anyway.

serrated · 11-26-2016, 11:22 PM

Having the DCT definitely helped. Not only because of the faster shifts, but also because of the lack of boost being blown off between shifts in a manual. (Assuming you aren't no-lift-shifting in the manual)

ilovewagons · 11-27-2016, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by serrated

because of the lack of boost being blown off between shifts in a manual.

This is the biggest reason I didn't want a manual in my M2. It's no fun feeling the boost drop every time you shift and have to build again. In a high revving, naturally aspirated engine, this is less of an issue, but it feels like watching your soufflé fall each shift and it wasn't for me.

auf Deutsch · 11-27-2016, 05:28 AM

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ic-test-review

Very impressed with the M2, especially from a roll. Yes, the SS walked away but it was a slow walk. Remember, the SS is an M3/4 competitor given the 12.3 @116 performance numbers and the 0-100 in 8.9s is really fast.

CommitConfirm · 11-27-2016, 03:19 PM

First sign of a bend and I'd want the M2!

zenmaster · 11-27-2016, 07:15 PM

The Camaro would beat the M2 around any track, twisty, short, long, whatever. Quite an achievement really. Was just about as fast as the M4 GTS around Laguna Seca.

desertfox73 · 11-27-2016, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

The Camaro would beat the M2 around any track, twisty, short, long, whatever. Quite an achievement really. Was just about as fast as the M4 GTS around Laguna Seca.

amw896 · 11-28-2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

The Camaro would beat the M2 around any track, twisty, short, long, whatever. Quite an achievement really. Was just about as fast as the M4 GTS around Laguna Seca.

Spot on. LOL if you think an m2 can hold pace around any track against this camaro.

FSociety · 11-28-2016, 11:15 AM

Camaro didn't win Car of the Year Award by mistake!
Domestic are back !

RENT-A-GOAT · 11-28-2016, 11:28 AM

Nothing is ever going to take away the fact the Camaro is just plain out and out FUGLY!

paikman · 11-28-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CommitConfirm

First sign of a bend and I'd want the M2!

because you couldn't handle going faster in a corner? the SS 1LE package is 10,000 dollarscheaper than a M2 and is faster than a M4GTS
obviously not as nice inside and refined as either but if youre just talking about performance you cant talk like that lol

Adem1534 · 11-28-2016, 11:43 AM

I wonder how long it will take for the bogus American made stereo type to be realized for what it is - bullshit

Ian ///M · 11-28-2016, 11:51 AM

Apples to oranges like shit

FAK3 · 11-28-2016, 12:08 PM

chris719 · 11-28-2016, 12:10 PM

Not bad, closer than expected from a roll.

FAK3 · 11-28-2016, 12:12 PM

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Wrong thread probably... but if you block traffic in NYC to take some stupid pictures you deserve to have your windshield busted.

Sorry I thought I deleted it from here! Agreed tho

zinner · 11-28-2016, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CommitConfirm

First sign of a bend and I'd want the M2!

Oh really? Lightning Lap 2016 results. Does VIR have bends?

M2 3:01.9 As-Tested $54,495
M4 GTS 2:52.9 As-Tested $134,200
Camaro SS 1LE 2:54.8 As-Tested $45,700
Camaro V6 1LE 3:04.0 As-Tested $43,185

BimmerMat135 · 11-28-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zinner

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Originally Posted by CommitConfirm

First sign of a bend and I'd want the M2!

Oh really? Lightning Lap 2016 results. Does VIR have bends?

M2 3:01.9 As-Tested $54,495
M4 GTS 2:52.9 As-Tested $134,200
Camaro SS 1LE 2:54.8 As-Tested $45,700
Camaro V6 1LE 3:04.0 As-Tested $43,185

That made me laugh, what about the cost of ownership? Resale value, fuel economy, maintenance and tires change every 10000 miles etc. The M2 could be easily faster with pilot sport cup tires but BMW don't want us to change tires every year. If you factor all I'm pretty sure that the M2 is cheaper to own.

Avly · 11-28-2016, 01:15 PM

Let me preface my post by saying I am the original owner of a E92 M3. I'll likely keep my E92 forever because, well for one, I clear braed the whole thing, second, I just bought a daily driver for the specific purpose of keeping the E92 as my fun car. Finally, I've only owned and driven BMWs in the past 10 years.

With that out of the way, the Camaro SSLE dumps on the M2 by any performance measure chosen. Those who think otherwise probably think the earth is flat.

CommitConfirm · 11-28-2016, 01:30 PM

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I wonder how long it will take for the bogus American made stereo type to be realized for what it is - bullshit

Seriously though - I'm teasing, that's what us Brits do - there are stereotypes for a reason right? Are you really trying to say all American Muscle cars go round bends & are not just about straight line power?

If all I was interested in was 1/4 drag, then sure, I'd have a big American V8 with it more torque than HP all day long. However if I wanted it for anything else it would have to be a European or Jap car.

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