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If I'm completely wrong the CSL will be a mini GTS and cost more than the GT4.
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I don't know about the M4 CS, but it seems like that will slow in between the ZCP and GTS model too.
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"L" in "CSL" stands for "Leichtbau" ("lightweight" or "light construction").
M2 sporting an S55 engine: sure, BMW M can shave off quite some weight, but not enough (without significantly reworking the car) to righteously deserve the moniker "lightweight". CSL minus L = CS.
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Carbon fiber roof Light weight battery Same seats but manual No nav and other fancy things Possible titanium exhaust but I doubt it. That's good for what? 100-150lbs? Basically how the M2 should have came in the first place.
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I don't believe in a CS. There is no market for it.
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I'm not sure on the authenticity of that VDMA bulletin but when they refer to a bi-turbo I reckon they mean twin-scroll turbo. I really can't see them fitting a S55 into a M2 (GTS maybe).
The 330ci CS was a bit of a joke. It had no extra power just different alloys, splitter, a rear wing and came in 3 colours. They removed some sound deadening from the engine bay and then gave it electric seats as standard lol The M3 CS was a good car but classed as a poor mans CSL (all the best bits from the CSL with the exception of the weight savings). A large cost in the CSL is due to the components used to make the weight-savings and this is what transforms the car. If BMW don't think the car deserves the letters CSL that's saying something. It's CSL or nothing for me. How many of you guys are actually on a waiting list ? Quote:
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The source that claims to have spoken last year to the test driver who drove an M2 featuring an S55 engine, posted earlier this week that the M2 sibling is already built/ready (source: here).
If true, then the M2 base version and M2 sibling have been developed at the same time (as also repeatedly hinted by Scott26 - see the first post of this thread), with the sibling being the M2 Director's Cut.
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I'm not doubt but rooting for a csL!
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The CS essentially is "just" an M2 with an S55. That is way more far along than some of you guys think, whereas we haven't seen a hint of the CSL yet. Keep in mind, the car will only be made for another 4 years, so if they don't start soon (aka mules), I wouldn't expect to see it. As much as it pains to me to say...
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Again, there won't be a "CS" or in between version as you're suggesting. I don't care what letters you give this proposed model but it is happening right now and it'll be balls to the walls and expensive.
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If you've seen what I've seen, you wouldn't think that. Let's just leave at that and sees what happens officially
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But as you righteously suggest, if some other M2 cat comes out of the BMW M bag (MY2018 ?), we may reasonably expect it to be pretty expensive and hard to get. Out of reach for most mere mortals like us. But hey, we will have at least some nice pictures and videos of it over here.
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Stuff an S55, Carbon roof and CCB... call it a day
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I am indeed in Greer. And I need to stop sitting on my ass and start putting deposits down, just in case. That's all I'm going to say
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I'm #1 as well
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I'll be honest. I don't want a stripped GT car.
CF hood, roof, trunk, lightweight battery, manual leather seats, possibly a fiberglass rear seat. (no need for sexy CF if you can't see it.) I'd like to have a heated steering wheel, and heated seats. It's more than just removing weight. It's lowering the center of mass at the same time. Combine that with the ability to run wider tires, and you've got something. Then add a little power to take advantage of the extra balance. I also don't want to crawl under the car to adjust dampers. Push button please. City traffic has pushed me to want DCT. Breaks my heart, but traffic is no fun. Not a deal breaker though. Last edited by medphysdave; 03-11-2016 at 09:57 AM.. |
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