05-21-2018, 09:32 AM | #23 | |
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A lot of Porsche GT3 guys with PCCB look for iron rotors replacement when their ceramic rotors are done. A bigger brake system will always add weight. That's just physics. Ceramic rotors may have less weight but they also have their drawbacks. Replacement cost is a major one. |
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05-21-2018, 09:34 AM | #24 |
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I recall a few years ago a thread reporting some drama about CCB's on the M4 (not properly fitting, getting damaged: replacing those rotors hurts your wallet if not replaced under warranty).
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05-21-2018, 09:36 AM | #25 | ||
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Nobody will do track days all the days. But just one is enough with std brake to waste it. 3 turns and you have to stop, with "new fake brake" 3,5 /4 turns no more. My topic is the sense of install this new brake or not and my opinion is absolutely NOT! |
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05-21-2018, 09:38 AM | #26 |
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Sounds like the usual chatter. However note that all major mfg have added ceramics, i.e. Porsche, Ferrari, MB, etc. The bite and fade free performance are known winning features. Not to mention lack of brake dust. And yes, typical track guys do not use them because they are too expensive to replace. But for your typical high performance street car, they can't be beat.
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05-21-2018, 09:41 AM | #27 |
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The brakes will be standard on the car in most markets, although perhaps not in Italy. If you get the car without them, you are specing a lepur and your resale value will be greatly impacted, even if your car might be lighter and maybe even quicker.
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05-21-2018, 09:58 AM | #28 | |
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The question is : M as Motorsport or M as Marketing? |
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05-21-2018, 10:03 AM | #29 | |
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As I mentioned before a bigger brake system will always add weight but in terms of performance the benefit of better cooling outweigh the slight weight increases. |
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The ridicoulus is to not propose ccb on the m2 neither as retrofit but just propose really expensive carbon parts to reduce weight, increased for a no sense new brake set! |
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05-21-2018, 10:36 AM | #31 | |
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I wouldn't want CCB on the M2. I personally felt the current brakes were more than adequate on my M2, the only downside is the blue paint turns green which is annoying. I would hate to not be able to use 18" track wheels. |
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05-21-2018, 12:42 PM | #39 |
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So, for the M2 / M2 Competition we got:
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If new owners want to save weight and don't mind giving up some increased braking performance. They can switch to the standard brakes. Or if in their country 2NH is not standard, opt out. Personally, 2NH is a must have option. |
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BlackJetE90 mentioned 13 kg. Do you have official numbers, or just a better guestimate? Except for the price, maybe something like the AP racing kit would be a better alternative. However, I do not know what they would be like on the street, and in the winter. Anybody with experience? https://www.essexparts.com/essex-des...-f87m2f80m3f82 https://www.essexparts.com/essex-des...36530mm-M2M3M4 |
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