[slick101]

i had my first test drive of the 335 yesterday.....i felt like i was hookin up with a super model....the car was amazing..... i cant wait to get my e92 in april.....there was one thing that bothered me though... it's porbably just me or maybe the car i specific 335 that i drove but does the throtle response of the 335 bother nebody else? i know it's turbo's lag but from wut i've heard it's supposed to minimal to none...i took the car out of the dealer lot and floored it from a dig and i felt like it didnt respond to me as fast as i wanted it to... it could have been the automatic transmisson but i drove my cousin's 330 auto and it felt fine... infact i felt as though it had a faster initial throtle response than the 335..... i wanted to try the manual but the dealer said that i was lucky enough to get the auto to test drive....

[///Matt]

first off....

I'd kick the sales guy in the face if he told me I was "lucky enough" to test drive the auto, when you're buying a $50K car.

It was was probably just the one you drove. I drive a lot of em, and I don't see much throttle lag.

[slick101]

Originally Posted by ///Matt

first off....

I'd kick the sales guy in the face if he told me I was "lucky enough" to test drive the auto, when you're buying a $50K car.

It was was probably just the one you drove. I drive a lot of em, and I don't see much throttle lag.

i thought so too... it probably was the car that i drove.....

[uhaulball]

was ur cousin's 330 an e90 or e46.

the new bmw's use drive-by-wire and this causes a slightly delayed throttle response. try it again with the shifter in DS (drive-sport) mode; pull it back to D, then push to the knob to the left. this should kick things up a notch, especially in a 335. what dealer did u goto btw.

[imolazhp_ci]

the E46's are all drive by wire too. haha.

EDIT: sorry... not all. but most.

[uhaulball]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

the E46's are all drive by wire too. haha.

EDIT: sorry... not all. but most.

dang, my bad. the 2002 model i drove felt more peppy. im clueless then...

[slick101]

Originally Posted by uhaulball

was ur cousin's 330 an e90 or e46.

the new bmw's use drive-by-wire and this causes a slightly delayed throttle response. try it again with the shifter in DS (drive-sport) mode; pull it back to D, then push to the knob to the left. this should kick things up a notch, especially in a 335. what dealer did u goto btw.

my cousin's 330 was the e90....i ordered my e92 from life quality, brooklyn and they didnt have any demo cars for me to testdrive so i called up open raod in nj and they offered me the test drive....

[teknochild]

theres no delay in throttle response, a delay in sharpness compared to other cars ive driven yes (thats a bmw thing im pretty sure though and intentional), but you press the throttle and it give you throttle

another thing is that the first maybe 10 degrees or so doesnt really do much in the way of gassing the car, its not a linear system for the first maybe 1/8th of the range, that is to say pushing it 1/8th of the way in really give you like 1/16th of throttle

the above bugged the shit out of me for a long time and i stalled it 5+ times on the way off the lot, ive been used to barely having to push in the gas to get throttle


and NONE of that has to do with turbo lag

[imolazhp_ci]

Originally Posted by teknochild

theres no delay in throttle response, a delay in sharpness compared to other cars ive driven yes (thats a bmw thing im pretty sure though and intentional), but you press the throttle and it give you throttle

yeah that isn't a bmw thing at all... it's a turbo thing.

[uhaulball]

Originally Posted by teknochild

theres no delay in throttle response, a delay in sharpness compared to other cars ive driven yes (thats a bmw thing im pretty sure though and intentional), but you press the throttle and it give you throttle

another thing is that the first maybe 10 degrees or so doesnt really do much in the way of gassing the car, its not a linear system for the first maybe 1/8th of the range, that is to say pushing it 1/8th of the way in really give you like 1/16th of throttle

the above bugged the shit out of me for a long time and i stalled it 5+ times on the way off the lot, ive been used to barely having to push in the gas to get throttle


and NONE of that has to do with turbo lag

its not really a bmw thing. mostly on the new models. my parents have an x5 and 7 series. theres instant oomph when u hit the gas just a little bit.

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

yeah that isn't a bmw thing at all... it's a turbo thing.

you obviously dont understand what im trying to say, at all (especially since i pointed out that it WASNT turbo lag i was talking about because i knew someone like you would misenterpret it), i know what turbo lag feels like, what im talking about is not turbo lag

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by uhaulball

its not really a bmw thing. mostly on the new models. my parents have an x5 and 7 series. theres instant oomph when u hit the gas just a little bit.

im not talking about instantanious oomph, like i said, there is no throttle delay, im talking about the smoothness in which its delievered, its instant, but instead of screech its, bzzz

[uhaulball]

Originally Posted by teknochild

im not talking about instantanious oomph, like i said, there is no throttle delay, im talking about the smoothness in which its delievered, its instant, but instead of screech its, bzzz

well to most, lack of oomph (which is inherent in even the cheapest cars) feels like lag in the throttle. i know what u mean man, i have an auto e90. the thing doesnt not respond, it just sluggishly responds until u press the throttle further down.

its not a bmw thing, have u driven the older models before?

[viobruin]

I test drove an automatic 335 and there was a definite delay in throttle response. Bought a manual and took delivery of it last week. Never had any delay in response with the manual. Maybe you should test drive it again and use the paddle shifters?

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by uhaulball

well to most, lack of oomph (which is inherent in even the cheapest cars) feels like lag in the throttle. i know what u mean man, i have an auto e90. the thing doesnt not respond, it just sluggishly responds until u press the throttle further down.

its not a bmw thing, have u driven the older models before?

its not turbo lag though, i dont understand what u meen by lack of oomph, there is no lack of oomph (at least not for me)

ill give an example, lets say im @5k in either car e92 and some other, and suddenly floor the throttle; in the other car your given the power immediatly and start accelerating, in the bmw your given all the available power immediatly, but rather than a jolt it comes smoothly, im not talking about over a second or even 1/4 of a second im talking about like miliseconds

same kind of thing @ 2k rpms in like 6th gear where turbo lag is very pronounced (takes a whole second lol) but in other cars at that rpms its not as sharp


and this was the same in my dads Mz3, which is what makes me think its a bmw thing

[slick101]

Originally Posted by teknochild

another thing is that the first maybe 10 degrees or so doesnt really do much in the way of gassing the car, its not a linear system for the first maybe 1/8th of the range, that is to say pushing it 1/8th of the way in really give you like 1/16th of throttle

the above bugged the shit out of me for a long time and i stalled it 5+ times on the way off the lot, ive been used to barely having to push in the gas to get throttle


and NONE of that has to do with turbo lag

yea... that's exctly wut i felt... it's that first 10- 20 degrees of throtle where i noticed it...and past that i felt this huge surge of power (which i loved)pasting me into the seat....like u i'm so used to barely having to push the gas to get throttle... so i guess it's to not the turbo lag then...

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by slick101

yea... that's exctly wut i felt... it's that first 10- 20 degrees of throtle where i noticed it...and past that i felt this huge surge of power (which i loved)pasting me into the seat....like u i'm so used to barely having to push the gas to get throttle... so i guess it's to not the turbo lag then...

yea that first bit of throttle is... i guess a good word to describe it is "dampened"?

someons still going to say its turbo lag because its the easy response, but its really not


easy test is to get to a higher engine speed and its still like that

[slick101]

Originally Posted by viobruin

I test drove an automatic 335 and there was a definite delay in throttle response. Bought a manual and took delivery of it last week. Never had any delay in response with the manual. Maybe you should test drive it again and use the paddle shifters?

i cant wait to get my hands on my car....

[lkraven]

Two things: Auto in Ds is a lot more Responsive than D. second, it you floored it from a dig, DSC probably kicked in to prevent wheel slip.

[uhaulball]

Originally Posted by teknochild

its not turbo lag though, i dont understand what u meen by lack of oomph, there is no lack of oomph (at least not for me)

ill give an example, lets say im @5k in either car e92 and some other, and suddenly floor the throttle; in the other car your given the power immediatly and start accelerating, in the bmw your given all the available power immediatly, but rather than a jolt it comes smoothly, im not talking about over a second or even 1/4 of a second im talking about like miliseconds

same kind of thing @ 2k rpms in like 6th gear where turbo lag is very pronounced (takes a whole second lol) but in other cars at that rpms its not as sharp


and this was the same in my dads Mz3, which is what makes me think its a bmw thing

i never said it was turbo lag, that was the other guy. retard. jkjk

yea i agree with u on the power delivery. i guess on the 335 its different, but most of us get used to the more instant jolt. either way, ive gotten used to it and now its the other cars that feel weird.

[slick101]

Originally Posted by teknochild

yea that first bit of throttle is... i guess a good word to describe it is "dampened"?

someons still going to say its turbo lag because its the easy response, but its really not


easy test is to get to a higher engine speed and its still like that

i didnt get a chance to punch it at different rpms.. but if the throttle has been dampened wud i feel this delay in response at higher rpms??

[uhaulball]

Originally Posted by slick101

i didnt get a chance to punch it at different rpms.. but if the throttle has been dampened wud i feel this delay in response at higher rpms??

ya its pretty much at every rpm.