[2020M2Competition]

Virgin Oil Analysis of Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 report

[2020M2Competition]

Here is a slightly older VOA of PPE 5W40 I found online from early 2020

[2020M2Competition]

Viscosity is on the low side for a W40, but somewhat expected

ZDDP is also a little low (presumably for SP rating?)

What surprised me the most are the low flash points of 435F in my sample and 430F in the earlier sample

I thought these GTL based oils would do better in this regard

Are the low flash points an area of concern?

[edycol]

Originally Posted by 2020M2Competition

Viscosity is on the low side for a W40, but somewhat expected

ZDDP is also a little low (presumably for SP rating?)

What surprised me the most are the low flash points of 435F in my sample and 430F in the earlier sample

I thought these GTL based oils would do better in this regard

Are the low flash points an area of concern?

For whatever reason PP has low flash point. It should be other way as GTL has very good evaporation loss (Noack).
This is basically W30 oil. It is Porsche A40 approved which means it can take track abuse. That says it is stout package regardless pf flash point.
IMO this is best choice for people with N20/26 engines as it has low Zinc.
But for M vehicles or N/S 55 engines, there are better choices.

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by edycol

For whatever reason PP has low flash point. It should be other way as GTL has very good evaporation loss (Noack).
This is basically W30 oil. It is Porsche A40 approved which means it can take track abuse. That says it is stout package regardless pf flash point.
IMO this is best choice for people with N20/26 engines as it has low Zinc.
But for M vehicles or N/S 55 engines, there are better choices.

What LL-01 oil would you recommend?

[edycol]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

What LL-01 oil would you recommend?

If LL01 is must for driver (N/S55 can use MB229.5 too without LL01) Motul 5W40 X—Cess Gen2 would be my choice over PPE.
But PPE is exceptional oil, don't doubt it.
Always keep in mind that oils with all these approvals have to go through most stringent testing in industry.

[M Fifty]

I'm pretty certain the W goes with first rather than the second number...

[edycol]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

I'm pretty certain the W goes with first rather than the second number...

???

[M Fifty]

Originally Posted by edycol

???

"Viscosity is on the low side for a W40, but somewhat expected"

[edycol]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

"Viscosity is on the low side for a W40, but somewhat expected"

Yeah. What is the point?

[M Fifty]

Originally Posted by edycol

Yeah. What is the point?

The point was that the W relates to the former of the two figures rather than the latter, so 5W rather than W40

[edycol]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

The point was that the W relates to the former of the two figures rather than the latter, so 5W rather than W40

Yeah and? If you want to be better understood you can always jump in and explain that. I am using W40 so we get better understanding of an issue.
40 is KV100 range! 12.5 to 16.4cst!
5W is flow at certain temperature (in the case of 5W it is tested at -30c).
Oil can be on various spectrum of W40 range. Redline 5W40 is 15.6cst at 100c (it would be called "heavy" W40 oil). As we see this PPE is at the bottom of the range.
So, please be my guest.

[M Fifty]

I'm mostly looking here:
https://www.castrol.com/en_gb/united...ty-grades.html

But, sensing that you've feeling a little defensive, try to chill and remember it was not intended as an attack of your competence, intellect, expertise in the subject, inside leg measurement, IQ, size of your bits, whether you are any good with them, or what type of handbag you prefer. Yes?

[M Fifty]

Plus, I'm pretty certain I didn't quote you.

[edycol]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

I'm mostly looking here:
https://www.castrol.com/en_gb/united...ty-grades.html

But, sensing that you've feeling a little defensive, try to chill and remember it was not intended as an attack of your competence, intellect, expertise in the subject, inside leg measurement, IQ, size of your bits, whether you are any good with them, or what type of handbag you prefer. Yes?

Defensive? No. But don't have a patient when people feel others should guess their intentions.

[nioh_lbbm2]

lmfao dude got hella defensive out of no where when he wasn't even the one being quoted

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by M Fifty

I'm pretty certain the W goes with first rather than the second number...

He's referring to it verbally as a "30 weight" or "40 weight" oil which is normal. The "W" you are referring to means "Winter".

[M Fifty]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

The "W" you are referring to means "Winter".

I know.