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      06-17-2020, 05:06 AM   #1
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"Entrance start / finish, warm-up lap completed, now it counts. While the CS is chasing the start / finish straight, we quickly mention the lightweight carbon center console, which should also weigh 50 percent less. Also noteworthy CS details in the interior: the optional M sports steering wheel with a non-slip Alcantara cover and the M sports seats, which cry out for a quick lap with the optimum seating position and gripping side support.

But now focus on the lap time - the M2 CS has already taken the north curve with a smile and is now sprinting towards Turn 2. Boah, what a move. Fresher, scratched up and more motivated - the CS engine not only looks subjectively much more potent than the 410 HP competition engine. The M2 CS accelerates 2.3 seconds faster to 200 km / h than the M2 Competition.

Braking on Turn 2. Ideally, you brake late into the sharp right. Thanks to the mixture of the high grip level of the cup tires and the well-applied ABS control, you can brake into the curve much later with the M2 CS than with the M2 Competition, which is known to be the standard Michelin Pilot tires Super sports wear.

At the end of the parabolics, it also shows how well the cup tires and the ABS tuning harmonize. In the slightly rising and undulating braking zone, the top speed of 250 km / h up to 43 km / h at the apex of the hairpin. The M2 CS does the trick very well. In combination with the direct steering front axle, it is a great pleasure to thresh the Hardcore-M2 into the curve.

The CS steers right in, jagged - wonderful! One notices that the developers have once again adapted springs and adaptive dampers specifically for the CS.

Already during the turn-in process one should mentally prepare for a steering correction when accelerating out. Simply stepping on the gas from the apex does not work because the M2 CS tends to override performance. Also when accelerating out of turn 8 and then when turning left to right in turn 10, a sensitive gas foot is required.

Driving fun coordination
Direct steering with a crisp Sport-Plus hand torque meets a bright rear axle - even in the Motodrom, the agility of the M2 CS is somewhat reminiscent of an old-school sports car that demands a little talent on the steering wheel for a quick lap. With a slightly lower air pressure on the rear than on the front axle, the balance can be trimmed to a more neutral driving behavior. In the development, however, the decision was deliberately made to match driving fun.

Pit stop after the M2 CS set a fantastic lap time. At 1.54.8 minutes, he undercuts the lap time of the M2 Competition by 3.1 seconds. Big respect!"
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Amazing! I did learn German in high school but I could not comprehend a single word in the video but I still enjoyed watching it.
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Amazing! I did learn German in high school but I could not comprehend a single word in the video but I still enjoyed watching it.
You didn't miss much; they just mentioned basic info about the cars and that's all.
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Nothing new .. we need a proper review from Top Gear and Carfection ..
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Sport Auto has been doing amazing jobs at Hockenheim-GP!

From the video, the M2 CS understeers quite a bit, albiet putting down an impressive laptime in the end.

There're about 6 secs in section 1 and some crazy ~20 seconds in section 2, where it's constantly on Full Throttle accelaration. Maximum speed is 250kph (gps data with a just 450ps car), not a lot of tracks anywhere in the world can do that. Other parts are mainly for low speed turn.

I do believe horsepower and mechanical grip (and tire of course) would make a huge difference.
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      06-17-2020, 07:37 AM   #6
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Good test, but not enough drive. The fact is that many companies have ceased to insure cars on racetracks. This also applies to journalists. They are given cars, but with the conditions of their responsibility. Therefore, for many Magazines, if an accident occurs, it will be expensive. Big Magazines have more money, and there are spectacular tests.
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Can't see any mention of understeer.

Text from review.

"Entrance start / finish, warm-up lap completed, now it counts. While the CS is chasing the start / finish straight, we quickly mention the lightweight carbon center console, which should also weigh 50 percent less. Also noteworthy CS details in the interior: the optional M sports steering wheel with a non-slip Alcantara cover and the M sports seats, which cry out for a quick lap with the optimum seating position and gripping side support.

But now focus on the lap time - the M2 CS has already taken the north curve with a smile and is now sprinting towards Turn 2. Boah, what a move. Fresher, scratched up and more motivated - the CS engine not only looks subjectively much more potent than the 410 HP competition engine. The M2 CS accelerates 2.3 seconds faster to 200 km / h than the M2 Competition.

Braking on Turn 2. Ideally, you brake late into the sharp right. Thanks to the mixture of the high grip level of the cup tires and the well-applied ABS control, you can brake into the curve much later with the M2 CS than with the M2 Competition, which is known to be the standard Michelin Pilot tires Super sports wear.

At the end of the parabolics, it also shows how well the cup tires and the ABS tuning harmonize. In the slightly rising and undulating braking zone, the top speed of 250 km / h up to 43 km / h at the apex of the hairpin. The M2 CS does the trick very well. In combination with the direct steering front axle, it is a great pleasure to thresh the Hardcore-M2 into the curve.

The CS steers right in, jagged - wonderful! One notices that the developers have once again adapted springs and adaptive dampers specifically for the CS.

Already during the turn-in process one should mentally prepare for a steering correction when accelerating out. Simply stepping on the gas from the apex does not work because the M2 CS tends to override performance. Also when accelerating out of turn 8 and then when turning left to right in turn 10, a sensitive gas foot is required.

Driving fun coordination
Direct steering with a crisp Sport-Plus hand torque meets a bright rear axle - even in the Motodrom, the agility of the M2 CS is somewhat reminiscent of an old-school sports car that demands a little talent on the steering wheel for a quick lap. With a slightly lower air pressure on the rear than on the front axle, the balance can be trimmed to a more neutral driving behavior. In the development, however, the decision was deliberately made to match driving fun.

Pit stop after the M2 CS set a fantastic lap time. At 1.54.8 minutes, he undercuts the lap time of the M2 Competition by 3.1 seconds. Big respect!"
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I want the plastic front splitter on the M2 CSR, looks like a copy of the carbon version on the M2 CS. Would be nice if they sold it cheap so it was expendable, similar to Porsche GT cars.
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I was impressed. I expected the appearance of the driver to be much less smooth. The car did not appear the handful that I was expecting. I wonder if this was factory air pressure values, or if they tweaked it for more neutral handling.
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This is the CS on Sport Cup 2's vs the CS Racing on slicks?

That alone should be worth 2 seconds.

Did they mention what power level the CS Racing is running?
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This is the CS on Sport Cup 2's vs the CS Racing on slicks?

That alone should be worth 2 seconds.

Did they mention what power level the CS Racing is running?
I'm just guessing here but the figure they advertised for power output in the captions was at 365ps and 550nm for the cs racing and the m2c was at 450ps 550nm.
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M2 CS vs Porsche 718 GT4

the M2 CS is 0,2 seconds faster than the 718 GT4 at the same track. very interesting results.
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the M2 CS is 0,2 seconds faster than the 718 GT4 at the same track. very interesting results.
That's actually really surprising.

I bet the GT4 could run more consistent laptimes over the course of a session or a competition weekend, though.
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I like this type of track tests because they reflect clearly the capability of the car.
Not so much talk nonsense
On the other hand, great track times for both cars, M2 CS Racing being faster than M8 Competition ✌
Some enthusiasts addressed cars, not only SUVs from BMW!
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Is the CS Racing using what appear to be standard F80 M3 wheels painted black?
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Is the CS Racing using what appear to be standard F80 M3 wheels painted black?
It's on 18x10 square 513M wheels
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I like this type of track tests because they reflect clearly the capability of the car.
Not so much talk nonsense
On the other hand, great track times for both cars, M2 CS Racing being faster than M8 Competition ✌
Some enthusiasts addressed cars, not only SUVs from BMW!
Well, the M8 comp weighs as much as an SUV
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Braking on Turn 2. Ideally, you brake late into the sharp right. Thanks to the mixture of the high grip level of the cup tires and the well-applied ABS control, you can brake into the curve much later with the M2 CS than with the M2 Competition, which is known to be the standard Michelin Pilot tires Super sports wear.
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Seems they forgot to give credit the the CCBs.
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the M2 CS is 0,2 seconds faster than the 718 GT4 at the same track. very interesting results.
718 GT4: 1:53:90

M2 CS: 1:54:80

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/hockenheim-gp
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I bet the GT4 could run more consistent laptimes over the course of a session or a competition weekend, though.
Why do you say that? Weight advantage?
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The video said the M2 CS as tested DCT with CCB = 3500 lbs

It weighed 94.7 lbs less than the M2 Competition.

Anyone know the weight savings with manual vs DCT on M2 Comp?
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