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      02-05-2019, 07:44 PM   #1
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VEHICLE TYPE
front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe

PRICE AS TESTED
$64,545 (base price: $59,895)

ENGINE TYPE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection

Displacement:
182 cu in, 2979 cc
Power:
405 hp @ 7000 rpm
Torque:
406 lb-ft @ 2350 rpm

TRANSMISSION
7-speed dual-clutch automatic with manual shifting mode

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 106.0 in
Length: 175.6 in
Width: 73.0 in
Height: 55.5 in
Passenger volume: 89 cu ft
Trunk volume: 14 cu ft
Curb weight: 3628 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS
Zero to 60 mph: 4.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.1 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.9 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.3 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.4 sec @ 116 mph
Top speed: 155–174 mph (mfr’s est)
Braking, 70–0 mph: 155 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.99 g

C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 19 mpg

EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/city/highway: 19/17/23 mpg
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      02-05-2019, 09:14 PM   #2
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In before the S55 brah comments
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      02-05-2019, 09:26 PM   #3
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In b4 exhaust doesn't sound nice
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      02-05-2019, 10:06 PM   #4
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In before ugly muffler, broken s55, not worth the price premium, worst sounding bmw ever

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      02-05-2019, 11:02 PM   #5
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lol at the noob article saying that the M2C has poor cooling that's why the boost is lower...

I would say cooling is a nothingburger on this car. If anything, it's hard to get it up to operating temps quickly after starting.
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lol at the noob article saying that the M2C has poor cooling that's why the boost is lower...

I would say cooling is a nothingburger on this car. If anything, it's hard to get it up to operating temps quickly after starting.
M cars have issues, but cooling is almost never one of them.

My Z4M took a long time to reach operating oil temp. Sometimes I would make it to the office and it wouldn't quite be there.
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      02-06-2019, 01:07 AM   #7
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Weak article mostly. It trapped 3 mph higher, which is exactly what I would expect from a small boost in power. Zero to 60 needs to go away for RWD cars. This car is traction limited.
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      02-06-2019, 01:16 AM   #8
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M cars have issues, but cooling is almost never one of them.

My Z4M took a long time to reach operating oil temp. Sometimes I would make it to the office and it wouldn't quite be there.
M2C is sometimes taking a bit too long to get to operating temps(in this colder weather we're talking >15 mins) On the other hand I had a few cooling issues with my former stock OG M2 when driven hard(track).
And in high outside temps(Autobahn).


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M cars have issues, but cooling is almost never one of them.

My Z4M took a long time to reach operating oil temp. Sometimes I would make it to the office and it wouldn't quite be there.
specially gear box temperature.
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M2C is sometimes taking a bit too long to get to operating temps(in this colder weather we're talking >15 mins) On the other hand I had a few cooling issues with my former stock OG M2 when driven hard(track).
And in high outside temps(Autobahn).


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How is their conclusion possible?

I'm not sure they tested in the best conditions. The new one should be a notch up on performance.
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      02-06-2019, 04:15 PM   #16
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How is their conclusion possible?

I'm not sure they tested in the best conditions. The new one should be a notch up on performance.
Once you start getting past the 1/4 mile (indicated by a 3 mph higher trap speed) is when the S55 starts showing it's advantages.
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So few "instrument" reviews published on our cars (vs. the endless Youtube videos), it's hard to tell who had a bad day, tested at odd temps, if the S55's advantages just weren't reached, or what. .1 or .3 seconds here or there are such small amounts of time that can lost or gained in so many ways.

I think we might need robot car testers and bio-dome-enclosed test tracks to cut down on variables or we'll all have to stop worrying about it so much. Oh, and only one tire manufacturer with one tire model will be allowed to put tires on all cars for testing.

I used to enjoy these articles and the debates they caused, but I've been burned out on the whole thing a bit by the near-hate back and forth from the OG M2 vs. M2C arguments, and the drive-by sniping from some folk who don't own either one. A lot of it still seems to be the Fast and the Furious affect on car culture. I really don't remember a .1 second quarter mile win being taken so seriously before that movie, but maybe I just knew nice people when I spent more time on tracks in the pre-internet days.

I guess I just never did live my life a 1/4 mile at a time. Drive happy, folk.
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Results are results. There isn't much to say about them but I wish they compared these two cars side by side on the same day instead of going back to their test from two years ago. Who knows, maybe the the gap was going to be larger or maybe OG M2 was going to perform even better. This type of testing isn't ideal, that's for sure. I'm not even going to comment on the article itself.

Also, this comparison reminded me of their M4 ZCP test results (from 2016), which they compared to their M4 Base test results (from 2015). Even though M4 ZCP has extra 19HP and slightly more rubber, Base M4 did better in almost all categories than the ZCP:

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1315511

C/D TEST RESULTS for M4 ZCP w/ DCT:

Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.6 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.8 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 21.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.4 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.2 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 119 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 163 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 151 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.99 g

C/D TEST RESULTS for M4 Base w/ DCT:

Zero to 60 mph: 3.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 20.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.2 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.0 sec @ 119 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 163 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 150 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.00g
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Look at 60mph to 125 ish times posted in different articles/postings. That removes whatever traction issue may have contributed to the launch. Here the s55 is a click or two up.

Also tuning potential has to be considered. The S55 = a leg up.

Now the sound complaint. Well wait a few years and you’ll likely have something to complain about. You’ll be lucky to have a soundtrack in stereo pumped into your electric powered hot rod

Then even the sound of the M2C will be referred to as glorious.
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M2C acceleration is two leagues above OG when having traction. C/D tests show a 2.4 secs difference from 0-130 and all of it is in the 60-130 given 0-60 being the same.

That means whenever going into 3rd, competition wins significant time. Stock tire fully warmed or with tire upgrade, that would happen from 2nd.

This is so embarrassing: OG struggles for traction on 1st and 2nd and when it has it from 3rd, it's damn slow.
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M cars have issues, but cooling is almost never one of them.

My Z4M took a long time to reach operating oil temp. Sometimes I would make it to the office and it wouldn't quite be there.
Yeah, but you work from home.
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