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      02-02-2019, 05:37 AM   #1
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M3 CSL vs M2 Competition: almost identical genetic code (Autocar review)

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But to drive these coupés back to back and discover an almost identical genetic code is joyful. BMW M GmbH hasn’t always got things right of late, but today’s stars are what its cars should be all about: palpable balance, abundant but not overbearing power, control and the agility that comes with a modest footprint. And soul.

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I'd take the E46 M3 CSL anyday
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Great read...thanks
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Now can we have an equivalent 4 door performance package equivalent?... Nevermind.
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Sounds like the beginning of a porno
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wouldn't mind owning either one. would be hard to pick between the two. Ive never driven a CSL but everyone who has seems to say it is amazing and you dont see much to any negative things ever said about it which shows how special of a car it was
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Even by today's standards the e46 CSL is a top performer. I don't think many cars produced since then can pull off 1.4g on the skid pad.

I'm happy BMW M is sticking to it's core values with the F87. Hopefully the trend will continue.
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Ive never driven a CSL but everyone who has seems to say it is amazing and you dont see much to any negative things ever said about it which shows how special of a car it was
The SMG transmission is its apparent downfall. By all other accounts, the car is near perfect. Unfortunately, that problem seems to be glaring. A 6MT example might have been worth more today than its original price.
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Since the M3 CSL was never imported to North America, I'll take the M2 Competition
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The E46 M3 is already considered as classic according to BMW Classic.
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Even by today's standards the e46 CSL is a top performer. I don't think many cars produced since then can pull off 1.4g on the skid pad.

I'm happy BMW M is sticking to it's core values with the F87. Hopefully the trend will continue.
+1 even my wife said M2C reminded her of our E46 M3.
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Never realized how many design elements that the 2 has that look similar to the E46 coupe/vert until now, especially in the side profile and kink, a modern interpretation of a classic. Still seems the best 3 series you can buy is actually a 2 series.

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Good read! I'll take the CSL, though.
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Never realized how many design elements that the 2 has that look similar to the E46 coupe/vert until now, especially in the side profile and kink, a modern interpretation of a classic. Still seems the best 3 series you can buy is actually a 2 series.
Exactly - in today's world, 3 = 2.
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Am I the only one who is thinks it's absurd that the m2 is more than 500lbs heavier than the e46??
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damn the e46 was a beautiful design. so timeless.
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Am I the only one who is thinks it's absurd that the m2 is more than 500lbs heavier than the e46??
Than the CSL*

The normal E46 M3 has a curb weight of 1,549kg in US spec which is not too much less than the US M2 depending on who is reporting the numbers.

The CSL is crazy light compared to the standard M3, the trunk floor is cardboard, roof is carbon fiber, etc
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Am I the only one who is thinks it's absurd that the m2 is more than 500lbs heavier than the e46??
Than the CSL*

The normal E46 M3 has a curb weight of 1,549kg in US spec which is not too much less than the US M2 depending on who is reporting the numbers.

The CSL is crazy light compared to the standard M3, the trunk floor is cardboard, roof is carbon fiber, etc
Yeah I know what the csl is... they are doing a direct comparison between the two which is why I mentioned what I did...
There's almost 15 years of technology advancements between the two cars, you would think weight savings would be a huge part of bmws R&D for this car but clearly not
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Than the CSL*

The normal E46 M3 has a curb weight of 1,549kg in US spec which is not too much less than the US M2 depending on who is reporting the numbers.

The CSL is crazy light compared to the standard M3, the trunk floor is cardboard, roof is carbon fiber, etc
They also reduced some weight in the interior department (seats, door panels, etc)

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