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      09-13-2018, 10:41 AM   #1
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BMW M2 Competition 2019 review | better than a Porsche 718 Cayman? [Autocar]

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      09-13-2018, 10:56 AM   #2
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BTW, the title of the article is not even an opinion(statement) but a rhetorical question

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      09-13-2018, 11:05 AM   #3
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BTW, the title of the article is not even an opinion(statement) but a rhetorical question

Watch the video and the question gets answered in the affirmative. I was just saving you some time
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Great review!
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      09-13-2018, 11:40 AM   #5
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He says the biggest difference to the cayman from original M2 is the “new suspension” that has brought the M2C handling right up to Cayman levels, but unless I missed something, isn’t it confirmed that the suspension in the M2 and M2C nearly identical apart from the carbon brace under the hood?

I think this really highlights the difference in reviews done by journalists and those done by people with real world experience owning and driving the M2 and M2C back to back.

The M2C has better top end performance for sure but any M2 is a really good handling car
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      09-13-2018, 11:50 AM   #6
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SOLD! I think he liked it
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      09-13-2018, 11:55 AM   #7
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Is this not the same review thats in the Reviews Sticky along with all the others?
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      09-13-2018, 12:00 PM   #8
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Is this not the same review thats in the Reviews Sticky along with all the others?
No, this is a video review.
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      09-13-2018, 12:11 PM   #9
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No, this is a video review.
How did this slip me by, thanks for posting!

"Best mid range sports car you can buy......"

Just need to hear/see what Mr Harris has to say on the matter!

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Great review.

“Best mid range sportscar you can buy.”

Look forward to the M2C and 718 back to back comparo he mentions.
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How did this slip me by, thanks for posting!

"Best mid range sports car you can buy......"

Just need to hear/see what Mr Harris has to say on the matter!
He doesn't need to convince me that the M2C is the better overall car than the standard 718. The 718S would be the "Competition" at a much higher price. The 4 banger is just not the same as a 6. I have no doubt that on a hardcore track situation the Porsche suspension would shine.
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Good review & perspective. Sound aside, it's still tough to beat the 718s
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I bought my M2C a couple weeks ago. Love it. Smile on my face every drive.
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A few of his statements make me question credibility.

"Extra Amount of Steering feedback"

"New springs and damper settings"

"changes direction so much better"

"less sound proofing"

Half the time it sounded like he was just making stuff up as he drove.
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I bought my M2C a couple weeks ago. Love it. Smile on my face every drive.
:looks at current car list:

Where in the world do you park it?!
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A few of his statements make me question credibility.

"Extra Amount of Steering feedback"

"New springs and damper settings"

"changes direction so much better"

"less sound proofing"

Half the time it sounded like he was just making stuff up as he drove.
Exactly this.
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"Less sound proofing"

Someone in the comparison section of the forum (he owned the original, just bought an M2C) also says the M2C is much louder than the original M2. Did BMW actively try to make the car louder even beyond just the change in exhaust system?
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"Less sound proofing"

Someone in the comparison section of the forum (he owned the original, just bought an M2C) also says the M2C is much louder than the original M2. Did BMW actively try to make the car louder even beyond just the change in exhaust system?
Louder ASD?
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"Less sound proofing"

Someone in the comparison section of the forum (he owned the original, just bought an M2C) also says the M2C is much louder than the original M2. Did BMW actively try to make the car louder even beyond just the change in exhaust system?
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Louder ASD?


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Louder ASD?
I know you jest...given all the bypass harnesses purchased and people coding out ASD there's no way BMW chose to ignore all that market feedback and add decibels artificially, right?

And from the threads here about people putting sound deadening pieces back in, I didn't think there was much sound deadening material left to delete from this car either.
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I know you jest...given all the bypass harnesses purchased and people coding out ASD there's no way BMW chose to ignore all that market feedback and add decibels artificially, right?

And from the threads here about people putting sound deadening pieces back in, I didn't think there was much sound deadening material left to delete from this car either.
It’s one louder man...

Actual behind the scenes footage of BMW engineers below:

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Is it just me or?

This man sounds a kind of artificial, exaggerated enthusiastic. I do try to avoid the word "fake", but in all honesty I can`t.
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