[kgroschi]

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[atxsk8r]

Thanks for the review! Good to hear a review where someone actually likes the rev matching

[buddalun]

Excellent review as usual. I am very much looking forward to my M2.

[BMWPWR]

Great review and 100% agree with the orange tach. Would love for a future solution to convert the tach to white like other M's.

The plastic carbon doesn't worry me too much, it's nice enough.

[gmzanatta]

It is NOT plastic carbon fiber. It is real carbon fiber just left raw instead of with a glossy finish.

[BMWPWR]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

It is NOT plastic carbon fiber. It is real carbon fiber just left raw instead of with a glossy finish.

Even better, I like it

[kgroschi]

Originally Posted by atxsk8r

Thanks for the review! Good to hear a review where someone actually likes the rev matching

Thank you for watching, even the video is a bit long And yeah, I do think the rev-match is cool, but as I said, BMW should give us more of an option.

Originally Posted by buddalun

Excellent review as usual. I am very much looking forward to my M2.

Thank you very much sir!

Originally Posted by BMWPWR

Great review and 100% agree with the orange tach. Would love for a future solution to convert the tach to white like other M's.

The plastic carbon doesn't worry me too much, it's nice enough.

For sure some aftermarket companies will offer white light for it. The orange is really a joke for an M car.

I usually don't mind plastic (fake) CF as well, but I thought this one was pretty bad.

[kgroschi]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

It is NOT plastic carbon fiber. It is real carbon fiber just left raw instead of with a glossy finish.

What? I don't think so. This is what it says in the official Press Release:

"Other highlights of the interior are the new BMW M2
trim strip with surfacing in porous carbon fibre – an extremely light and robust
high-tech material"

I am sorry for BMW if it really is high-tech material, it feels like very cheap plastic, even I might be wrong. I showed it to several car nuts at meets, nobody seemed to like it. So I would be very surprised if it is indeed an expensive material.

I will try to get some info on that.

[BruceM]

From BMW Blog interview w/ BMW Reps:

"Q: Will the M2 get a Performance steering wheel? Will it be the same as the M4?

A: Yes, but the carbon fiber is adapted to the interior of the M2, dry carbon, which is the same trim finisher as in the stock M2."



Dry Carbon Fiber

A limited number of GruppeM RAMair intakes, along with certain GruppeM AEROdynamics kits, are also available in “dry” carbon fiber. The limited production of dry carbon fiber, which appears “dry” on the surface when compared to “wet” carbon fiber, is due to the near zero-tolerance manufacturing process required for the ultimate carbon fiber composite which is equal in strength, and substantially lighter, than wet carbon fiber.

The manufacturing process to achieve an ideal dry carbon fiber performance product requires the carbon fiber weave to be “preimpregnated” with the ideal amount of graphite epoxy prior to the molding and curing processes. This differs from the wet carbon fiber process in which the epoxy is applied to the weave continually until the appropriate amount of surface area coverage and thickness is achieved to meet the strength and consistency requirements of the product design. The resulting product is so much lighter than wet carbon fiber because there is absolutely no excess epoxy, which accounts for the “dry” appearance of the finished dry carbon fiber component.

I actually did not like it in pictures, but when I got into an M2 and drove it, I liked it fine. Pretty understated, stands out less than the wet stuff, and it's lighter

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by kgroschi

What? I don't think so. This is what it says in the official Press Release:

"Other highlights of the interior are the new BMW M2
trim strip with surfacing in porous carbon fibre – an extremely light and robust
high-tech material"

I am sorry for BMW if it really is high-tech material, it feels like very cheap plastic, even I might be wrong. I showed it to several car nuts at meets, nobody seemed to like it. So I would be very surprised if it is indeed an expensive material.

I will try to get some info on that.

It is real carbon fiber and I think it looks awesome. You probably hate it because you went in thinking it was some fake stamped plastic, which it is not.

[kgroschi]

Originally Posted by BruceM

From BMW Blog interview w/ BMW Reps:

"Q: Will the M2 get a Performance steering wheel? Will it be the same as the M4?

A: Yes, but the carbon fiber is adapted to the interior of the M2, dry carbon, which is the same trim finisher as in the stock M2."



Dry Carbon Fiber

A limited number of GruppeM RAMair intakes, along with certain GruppeM AEROdynamics kits, are also available in “dry” carbon fiber. The limited production of dry carbon fiber, which appears “dry” on the surface when compared to “wet” carbon fiber, is due to the near zero-tolerance manufacturing process required for the ultimate carbon fiber composite which is equal in strength, and substantially lighter, than wet carbon fiber.

The manufacturing process to achieve an ideal dry carbon fiber performance product requires the carbon fiber weave to be “preimpregnated” with the ideal amount of graphite epoxy prior to the molding and curing processes. This differs from the wet carbon fiber process in which the epoxy is applied to the weave continually until the appropriate amount of surface area coverage and thickness is achieved to meet the strength and consistency requirements of the product design. The resulting product is so much lighter than wet carbon fiber because there is absolutely no excess epoxy, which accounts for the “dry” appearance of the finished dry carbon fiber component.

I actually did not like it in pictures, but when I got into an M2 and drove it, I liked it fine. Pretty understated, stands out less than the wet stuff, and it's lighter

Man I just don't believe that. It felt so crap, not only in my opinion. (Not saying that I am right or anything) I am really surprised right now. I have to write BMW and triple check that. But thank you very much for that info!

[kgroschi]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

It is real carbon fiber and I think it looks awesome. You probably hate it because you went in thinking it was some fake stamped plastic, which it is not.

Maybe... I mean, I wouldn't have liked it, but I wouldn't have said that it's "cheap plastic". Man I am in shock haha. I have to go to a dealership tomorrow and feel that stuff one more time.

[csbear]

Yup, M2 has real carbon fiber, but without the laminate found on the F80/F82.

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by kgroschi

What? I don't think so. This is what it says in the official Press Release:

"Other highlights of the interior are the new BMW M2
trim strip with surfacing in porous carbon fibre – an extremely light and robust
high-tech material"

I am sorry for BMW if it really is high-tech material, it feels like very cheap plastic, even I might be wrong. I showed it to several car nuts at meets, nobody seemed to like it. So I would be very surprised if it is indeed an expensive material.

I will try to get some info on that.

Dude, it's literally the exact same material except it doesn't have a gloss coating. That's the only difference. But yea, I prefer the gloss carbon fiber for sure.

Great review!!! Really enjoyed watching it.

[kgroschi]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Dude, it's literally the exact same material except it doesn't have a gloss coating. That's the only difference. But yea, I prefer the gloss carbon fiber for sure.

Great review!!! Really enjoyed watching it.

Ya I guess either I have to take it down, do some more editing, or add another video for correctional purpose.

But glad you enjoyed the rest of the review.

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by kgroschi

Ya I guess either I have to take it down, do some more editing, or add another video for correctional purpose.

But glad you enjoyed the rest of the review.

Honestly it's not like you are that far off. It does look and feel plastic-y. It was a fantastic review, I'd leave it if I was you

[BMWPWR]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Honestly it's not like you are that far off. It does look and feel plastic-y. It was a fantastic review, I'd leave it I was you

Agreed, when there's journalists out there reviewing and saying the car has a "twin turbo", I wouldn't wouldn't worry about the trim material.

[Robin_NL]

Gracias for the review.

The E Diff is actually a real limited slip differential(as opposed to an open diff you find in normal BMWs) but electronically controlled.

And it's real dry carbon as already stated

MfrGr
Robin

[SGL]

Originally Posted by kgroschi

What? I don't think so. This is what it says in the official Press Release:

"Other highlights of the interior are the new BMW M2
trim strip with surfacing in porous carbon fibre – an extremely light and robust
high-tech material"

I am sorry for BMW if it really is high-tech material, it feels like very cheap plastic, even I might be wrong. I showed it to several car nuts at meets, nobody seemed to like it. So I would be very surprised if it is indeed an expensive material.

I will try to get some info on that.

BMW's cost is around $15 a pound or less for their carbon fiber out of their factory in Washington. It's not expensive to them, what is expensive is creating new tooling for the items we wish were carbon fiber.

[Nine Lives]

I agree about the the rubbery gear shift,in fact I've never liked any BMW MT.

Don't agree about the carbon fibre,think it looks pretty trick.

Great individual review,thanks

[W///]

Originally Posted by kgroschi

Man I just don't believe that. It felt so crap, not only in my opinion. (Not saying that I am right or anything) I am really surprised right now. I have to write BMW and triple check that. But thank you very much for that info!

You must have never felt real carbon then. Raw CF is not glossy.

[kgroschi]

Originally Posted by W///

You must have never felt real carbon then. Raw CF is not glossy.

Haha it's really funny that you say that, because I actually have! I worked with some CF factories out here in CA for some products we were devolping a few years ago!!!

I know CF isn't glossy. I never would have said "because it's not glossy, it's not CF". However, this just didn't feel like any CF I had ever seen before.