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      04-14-2016, 04:21 PM   #1
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I can't believe he's doing a hot lap without even wearing a helmet
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Dude is way too close to the wheel.
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Doesn't appear to be left foot braking either.
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      04-15-2016, 01:41 AM   #6
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Dude is way too close to the wheel.
Clou you have not I say?

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      04-15-2016, 01:45 AM   #7
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I can't believe he's doing a hot lap without even wearing a helmet
Weight....(?) He probably isn't wearing socks and undies either

The mag isn't in the stores yet overhere, in Germany today. I hope next week tuesday. Anybody here who knows Sportauto's Nordschleife laptime?



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Hi Robin, from Sportauto..

Power: 400 hp
Torque: 550 Nm
Weight: 1570 kg (52,3 / 47,7 %)
Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sport
0-40 kmh: 1,5 s
0-100 kmh: 4,5 s
0-160 kmh: 10,2 s
0-200 kmh: 16,4 s

Slalom 18m: 71,4 kph

Braking (c/w): 36,7 / 34,1 m
Braking (200-0 kmh): 134,2 m

Nordschleife: 8:01,3 min (partly damp track)
Döttinger Höhe: 258 kmh

0-200-0 kph: 21,2 s
36m-Slalom: 137 kmh
max. g-force: 1,30 g
Evasive-test: 153 kph
Aerodynamics: front: 16 kg uplift
rear: 12 kg uplift
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Thanks.

8:01 fair enough irl on a damp NS..

That's just the 50HP and 100Nm difference(vs M3/4) on Döttinger Höhe


So congrats to all M3/4 drivers. Not kidding!

This is so great, that Hockenheim 1:12.2 laptime.

Agility, dynamics and still no canibalism. Well done BMW //M

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[QUOTE=savage.ulm1;19763538]Hi Robin, from Sportauto..

Power: 400 hp
Torque: 550 Nm


Are these M2 dyno'd figures from the magazine or just guesstimate ?
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Hi Robin, from Sportauto..

Power: 400 hp
Torque: 550 Nm


Are these M2 dyno'd figures from the magazine or just guesstimate ?
They do dyno those Supertest cars.

Guesstimation(?) isn't something the Germans invented you know

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1M had front downforce(xxkg) an a lot more lift at the back. This is more balanced but still a tad lift on both sides.



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[QUOTE=Robin_NL;19763685]
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They do dyno those Supertest cars.

Guesstimation(?) isn't something the Germans invented you know

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1M had front downforce(xxkg) an a lot more lift at the back. This is more balanced but still a tad lift on both sides.



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Ha ha,

That's good to know.Puts to be bed the poor figures obtained in Colorado
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Ha ha,

That's good to know.Puts to be bed the poor figures obtained in Colorado
Yeah lol....
Do you remember those two geniusses heading for Aspen, but not for dynoing their moped




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Dude is way too close to the wheel.
He has the same seating position as my dear old mother in her Toyota Yaris.
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[QUOTE=Nine Lives;19763649]
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Hi Robin, from Sportauto..

Power: 400 hp
Torque: 550 Nm


Are these M2 dyno'd figures from the magazine or just guesstimate ?
As said before, Sport Auto (and Auto Bild) dyno the cars for their Supertest. Sport Auto allways use a MAHA dyno, the best and most accurate dynos out there.
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He has the same seating position as my dear old mother in her Toyota Yaris.
A lot of race drivers sit very close to the steering wheel. The driver here is Christian Gebhardt, who besides being the guy who has taken over driving duties after Horst von Sauma, also is a racing driver and has driven in the VLN cup on the Nurburgring for some time. He has driven for the Aston Martin Test Centre (Nurburgring) team, Mini Deutschland and other smaller teams.

While he probably isn't a Senna, he is most likely a better race driver than most of us on the forums...
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While he probably isn't a Senna, he is most likely a better race driver than most of us on the forums...
Not questioning his ability, just commenting on the distance between the wheel and him and how folded up his arms are.
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Clou you have not I say?
Ha, I had to re-read your post several times to get it. I think you meant clue.
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While he probably isn't a Senna, he is most likely a better race driver than most of us on the forums...
Not questioning his ability, just commenting on the distance between the wheel and him and how folded up his arms are.
He is about right, looks at NASCAR, they all sit close to the wheel. I read race car drivers like to able to move their arms without shoulder moving off the seat.

Granted, race car drivers wears helmet so they can afford to sit close, in street cars I wouldn't want to sit so close to the airbag.

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Not questioning his ability, just commenting on the distance between the wheel and him and how folded up his arms are.
Which is a very common seating position for many race car drivers... Just look at the NASCAR drivers and many other touring car series.

Like in V8 Supercars (Australia)



And in DTM (Germany)



And in the M235i cup in the VLN series at Nurburgring (Gebhardt raced a M235i at the 24h race in 2015)



Or the BMW M4 GTS driver here:


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Which is a very common seating position for many race car drivers... Just look at the NASCAR drivers and many other touring car series.
NASCAR lol. Where you need to go wheel-to-wheel lock back and forth all the time.
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NASCAR lol. Where you need to go wheel-to-wheel lock back and forth all the time.
Look up just about any rally driver.
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