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      11-03-2019, 01:05 PM   #1255
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Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires | 245/35 ZR19 front + 265/35 ZR19 rear.
Not wide enough, as usual.
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I'd like to think BMW isn't stupid and has done so in order to increase downforce in the back end but that's probably not the case lol
Why do all modern BMWs come with a diaper? What the hell? Is this a new trend now?
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Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires | 245/35 ZR19 front + 265/35 ZR19 rear.
Not wide enough, as usual.
The size of tire (s) chosen is in direct relation to the programming of the stability management system.
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The size of tire (s) chosen is in direct relation to the programming of the stability management system.
Reprogram (Answer) the fucking thing (Carmine Lupertazzi voice).

The CS is tuned/engineered for the track so put 265 up front and 285 out back and maintain the 20mm difference.
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The size of tire (s) chosen is in direct relation to the programming of the stability management system.
Reprogram (Answer) the fucking thing (Carmine Lupertazzi voice).

The CS is tuned/engineered for the track so put 265 up front and 285 out back and maintain the 20mm difference.
Impossible because of the time consumed tuning the car with those exact tire sizes from the very beginning to current.
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Impossible because of the time consumed tuning the car with those exact tire sizes from the very beginning to current.
Except I put 295s on my F80 and it has made a significant (positive) difference in traction. 265 simply isn't wide enough for 450 BHP...or 405...or 365 (aka, it's too skinny on ALL the M2s).
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Impossible because of the time consumed tuning the car with those exact tire sizes from the very beginning to current.
Except I put 295s on my F80 and it has made a significant (positive) difference in traction. 265 simply isn't wide enough for 450 BHP...or 405...or 365 (aka, it's too skinny on ALL the M2s).
I understand your point.

I'm not talking about traction, I'm talking about stability.

BMW has way too much time invested tuning the M2 on those particular tire sizes.
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Impossible because of the time consumed tuning the car with those exact tire sizes from the very beginning to current.
So all I heard is that BMW decided not to invest the time and money on the M2, again. So they're not putting out their best product, just good enough. Again.
Why do we even bother? BMW clearly doesn't want to spend the capital on their flagship car, lets be honest.
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Impossible because of the time consumed tuning the car with those exact tire sizes from the very beginning to current.
So all I heard is that BMW decided not to invest the time and money on the M2, again. So they're not putting out their best product, just good enough. Again.
Why do we even bother? BMW clearly doesn't want to spend the capital on their flagship car, lets be honest.
Honestly M2 is not BMW's flagship car.
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This seems like the LAST real M car. RWD and 6 speed manual. I don't have much hope for BMW after this...
Agree with you 10" a million percent. M2 CS has the potential to be a classic that may hold its value well. After this the cars will get even bigger, weigh more, no DCT, and a questionable grille. Although next M2 should still be RWD.
Plus the fact that the CS is limited edition makes it more valuable as it won't be around for long. A 911 Carrera S may be impressive but that costs more and will be available for the next 7 years sitting on the lots of any Porsche dealer.
I have seen the M2 CS up-close ('Fotofahrzeug' / 'Photo Vehicle' in the VIN specs) without all camouflage on static display (exterior, interior, engine bay & boot). Though I have not seen/heard it yet in motion IRL, videos of M2 CS prototypes lapping the Nürburgring and Hockenheimring in a poised 'ants in the pants' fashion, showcase the promise of something very interesting. Defining moment: right now it's on the brink of officially popping up on the Petrolhead Territories radar. The radar alarm blip has a message for competing brands: *woop-woop* "Cave canem !"

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It's no secret anymore that the M2 CS will be launched this month and produced next year. Very recently BMW M boss Markus Flasch coined it as "probably the most crisp and pure BMW M model we have launched in quite some time" and "it's phenomenal and drives like a race car with license plates" (see here).

The future will tell whether this new kid on the [COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]/[/COLOR][COLOR="Blue"]/[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]/[/COLOR]M block lives up to its high expectations. Based on what I know so far, I trust that the M2 CS is bound to become a very desirable BMW M car, a quintessential automotive gem setting a new beemer bliss benchmark: a properly sized, fast & powerful rear-wheel drive 4-seater with great driving dynamics, fine-tuned reliable 3.0 6-cyl powerhouse, cool design & presence, decent boot space, creature comforts and available with manual gear stick & M-DCT. You can comfortably drive your partner + two kids to the circuit, lap the circuit and all return home again with a smile, including a stop to pick up groceries. Quite practical and versatile/multipurpose.

Moreover, the M2 CS will also be one of the last models before BMW and BMW M fully implement the new 'design language' of big front end grilles. Very likely the last generation at the gates of the future era of 'grillefication', electrification, more front-wheel drive & all-wheel drive, more automatic/ZF transmission, less 6-cylinder & exhaust drama and further tightened regulations. And, hence, IMHO the M2 CS stands a good chance to be reputed as 'vintage'/'classic' in the future (so-called 'future classic'), a pinnacle car tech toy with still an 'analog' twist (instead of going fully digital) facilitating emotional connection.

But it risks to be a challenge to get hold of an allocation (build slot) (2200 cars worldwide, all built in 2020), features a peculiar Bavarian blue launch color and an immodest price-tag for a BMW 2er.

Unlike the E46 M3 CSL (SMGII), E92 M3 GTS, E90 M3 CRT, E92 DTM Champion Edition (Spengler), F82 M4 GTS, F82 DTM Champion Edition (Wittmann), F82 M4 CS, F80 M3 CS and F82 Heritage Edition, manual transmission will be available as standard feature on the M2 CS. BMW M boss Flash confirmed last Summer - in a general way about BMW M cars - that currently no plans exist to discontinue the manual gearbox (see for example here). However, almost certainly we won't see the M-DCT on the next generation M2 (G87). The M-DCT is on its way out.
Still no release date on the M2 cs?
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Impossible because of the time consumed tuning the car with those exact tire sizes from the very beginning to current.
I really doubt it's that hard for them to tune the car to even 255/275.

If it makes such a difference, they can pull parameters from the M3/M4 and change a few values to suite what they want.
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Impossible because of the time consumed tuning the car with those exact tire sizes from the very beginning to current.
I really doubt it's that hard for them to tune the car to even 255/275.

If it makes such a difference, they can pull parameters from the M3/M4 and change a few values to suite what they want.
Unfortunately it's not as easy as it sounds.
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It's not as easy as it sounds.
Agreed. A whole new protocol of development and testing would be needed if the tire size were to be changed. Never mind that, I just wish we got the Cup 2 tires on the CS's here in the US!
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This car is looking real nice. I heard it's going to premier in about 2 weeks. Waiting on price...
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Unfortunately it's not as easy as it sounds.
How so? Cause that sounds completely illogical to me.
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Unfortunately it's not as easy as it sounds.
How so? Cause that sounds completely illogical to me.
They are very different cars.

Different is more ways then one.
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Agreed. A whole new protocol of development and testing would be needed if the tire size were to be changed. Never mind that, I just wish we got the Cup 2 tires on the CS's here in the US!
BMW M2 already has/had 4 OEM tire options available, so needing to develop a new protocol and spend time testing hasn't stopped them before.
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This car is looking real nice. I heard it's going to premier in about 2 weeks. Waiting on price...
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They are very different cars.

Different is more ways then one.
That's a non-answer. How are they so different?
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