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      09-30-2021, 09:14 AM   #67
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I don't care about missing high-end features like HUD, because I understand that BMW isn't gonna undercut their higher-end offerings by loading up a cheaper car.
I don't know that a HUD is necessarily a high-end feature. They're becoming mainstream. A $40K Camaro (either 2SS or 1LE) has one. A $27K Kia Soul turbo has one. Every BMW line including 2 series seems to offer one.

Once you have used one, you don't want to go back.

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I don't know that a HUD is necessarily a high-end feature. They're becoming mainstream. A $40K Camaro (either 2SS or 1LE) has one. A $27K Kia Soul turbo has one. Every BMW line including 2 series seems to offer one.

Once you have used one, you don't want to go back.

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Had one on a 3 series loaner for two weeks and honestly I couldn't care less either way. I def wouldn't pay anything extra to get HUD
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For me M2C is pretty much what I wanted (for the limited $$ I wanted to spend); and I knew what I am getting into. I personally didn't want any cool luxury features.

Two things that dislike though are - 1) learning curve to perfect 1st to 2nd spirited shift, (2) the rev hang, esp. to 2nd shift.

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I pulled the trigger on the M2C because I've been blabbering about them since the beginning and with the way prices are, I can probably drive it and see what the G87 is like without losing too much money. I have a suspicion that I might have added yet another keeper to the collection.

Complaints? I've got a few, but then again, I've got complaints about all my BMW M's in one way or another (I'd say the least complaint for the E92 M3). All of them covered by everyone else here, absolutely non of them enough for me to say this is one of the best cars I've driven/owned.

While I have high hopes for the G87, I'm not sure the F87's magic recipe (right size, looks, not taking itself too seriously, $60k) can be repeated.

P.S. I had a G30 M550i as a daily for 4 months. I honestly don't miss HUD as much as I thought I would, but I do miss Remote Start. That's easily the most useful feature of the G-series cars that the F's don't have.
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      09-30-2021, 11:29 AM   #71
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Had one on a 3 series loaner for two weeks and honestly I couldn't care less either way. I def wouldn't pay anything extra to get HUD
If you take your car to the track, you will love the HUD. The one in my Camaro had RPM shift lights F1 style. They turn from green to yellow to red as you get near the redline. I never looked at the tachometer during HPDE track events. The Camaro HUD also had a gear indicator and was customizable as far as content, brightness, etc. And you can turn it off if desired, so there's really no downside to it. Eliminates the need to take your eyes off the road/track.

I would definitely pay for it if it was available.
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I dislike the spacing of the drivers seat and the door frame. Specially how it's just slightly more narrow than the seat belt buckle so every single time I grab it, it gets stuck. I'm sure this was just from dropping the larger M3/M4 seats in a chassis designed for the non comp seats but still annoys me.
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      10-06-2021, 10:15 AM   #74
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Yup - poor ability to put power down, weight, giant udder, oil cooler location. Other than that it’s a super fun car.
The poor ability to put power down is in my 'pro' category.
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The poor ability to put power down is in my 'pro' category.
Exactly, of course it's a balance that can be adjusted with different tires. The stock tune with stock tires is playful. Stage 1 in MDM can bite you in the butt, stickier tires will fix that though.
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Cow udder and brake dust. Both have been remedied...
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Suspension and wheels … swapped both out .
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A couple of other things I've discovered:
1) Lack of cornering lights?
2) This is a little thing but to me, the front fender badge appears out of scale, i.e. too small, for the car. I think it would look better if it was longer.
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Coming from a dct m4 to the more enjoyable to drive manual m2c, I have only a couple things I like less. No head up display. Lack of full leather. And while I enjoy the look of the m2c instrument cluster, I hate clicking through to find info. Such minor things for a car that I love so much more.
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Any dislike goes away when I start driving. Once exhaust noises are upgraded, you forget about everything else because now it's an even greater blast to drive.

If I had to list some:

1. Seatbelt height adjustment for my neck.
2. Wireless charger usability/location.
3. The 788ms being a pain to clean (although) the colors look great on an AW)

That being said all are minor things that are imho completely livable with or at least fixable, which is part of making the car yours.
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The Road noise on highway 17 near Los Gatos drives me crazy. Coming from 3 M5's, I'd like a much quieter interior. Still, I having so much fun that I love this car.
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The Road noise on highway 17 near Los Gatos drives me crazy. Coming from 3 M5's, I'd like a much quieter interior. Still, I having so much fun that I love this car.
I'd love to ride that curvy hard some time but always clogged with traffic when I get there
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Coming from a dct m4 to the more enjoyable to drive manual m2c, I have only a couple things I like less. No head up display. Lack of full leather. And while I enjoy the look of the m2c instrument cluster, I hate clicking through to find info. Such minor things for a car that I love so much more.
You know you can turn all of that off on the instrument cluster. I turned it all off except for the home, speedo and oil temp. I didn't like cycling through all of that either. I just want to know when the oil is warm so I can get on it!
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After 2+ years one things does continue to bother me. The seat belt (when worn) rubs against the upper part of the seat, next to the head rest area, and make this squeak noise all the time. It wont goi away
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Coming from a dct m4 to the more enjoyable to drive manual m2c, I have only a couple things I like less. No head up display. Lack of full leather. And while I enjoy the look of the m2c instrument cluster, I hate clicking through to find info. Such minor things for a car that I love so much more.
exactly the same for me coming for a DCT ZCP M4
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Only 3 things.

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Difficult wheel options when needing more tire
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same thing that has bothered me since day one - the stock suspension is unnaturally bouncy
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I dislike the spacing of the drivers seat and the door frame. Specially how it's just slightly more narrow than the seat belt buckle so every single time I grab it, it gets stuck. I'm sure this was just from dropping the larger M3/M4 seats in a chassis designed for the non comp seats but still annoys me.
I consider that proof you are driving a BMW. Both my M2C and 440i ‘vert have that issue. Bugs the crap out of me how it gets jammed in there.
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