12-05-2021, 06:41 PM | #23 |
Captain
5111
Rep 878
Posts
Drives: ///M2
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: California
|
I would stick to the e9x m3 in any version (price aside). I had a E90 M3 before
__________________
N54 135i 6MT (FBO, JB4 reflash, E30) sold
E90 M3 DCT (FBO, tuned) sold Current: Performance Edition M2 6MT (FBO, ethanol tuned by Bend Calibration/Ecutek) |
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2021, 07:35 PM | #25 |
Captain
5111
Rep 878
Posts
Drives: ///M2
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: California
|
The market is tough with the M2. Personally, I would look for a M3/4. I think the M3 is the way to go.
For the M2, I would aim for a comp. I know people love the sound of the N55 and I can't blame them. I ran mine with the M performance exhaust + catless downpipe, also with a high flow cat (intake, e85 etc). I've pushed it to the limits on the stock turbo (445whp 500wtq) The comp is the way to go IF the price is right. I could see a similar mileage N55 (2018 LCI) for 10-20k less. For the N55 I'd get a DCT for sure, comp DCT as well but manual if you must. The only thing to watch out for with the comp is the crack hub. Good luck with the search!
__________________
N54 135i 6MT (FBO, JB4 reflash, E30) sold
E90 M3 DCT (FBO, tuned) sold Current: Performance Edition M2 6MT (FBO, ethanol tuned by Bend Calibration/Ecutek) |
12-05-2021, 07:46 PM | #26 | |
New Member
13
Rep 26
Posts
Drives: BMW E36 M3
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: New York City
|
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2021, 08:09 PM | #27 | ||
Captain
5111
Rep 878
Posts
Drives: ///M2
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: California
|
Quote:
I like the pocket sized fit of the M2. If you're track driving I could see the smaller car being easier to toss around but I'd go with the F80 personally. After doing FBO, HPFP, flex fuel sensor, etc on my N55, I would stay away from it. Even with the sound being factored in. Nothing beats the straight piped sound of the N55 but it's not enough of a factor for me to pick it over the S55 Maybe the sound for me is different now that I've had it for a few years and got sick of the catless smell
__________________
N54 135i 6MT (FBO, JB4 reflash, E30) sold
E90 M3 DCT (FBO, tuned) sold Current: Performance Edition M2 6MT (FBO, ethanol tuned by Bend Calibration/Ecutek) |
||
Appreciate
2
AndrewLe9013.00 ried793.00 |
12-05-2021, 08:13 PM | #28 | |||
New Member
13
Rep 26
Posts
Drives: BMW E36 M3
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: New York City
|
Quote:
|
|||
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2021, 08:35 PM | #29 |
Captain
5111
Rep 878
Posts
Drives: ///M2
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: California
|
@AndrewLe90
My car is the performance edition in manual. It weighed in at 3390lbs. After spending 5-7k on performance mods it's still slow than the S55 with a JB4. Once you mod the S55 with ethanol and turbos, forget it. My car with a pure stage 2 turbo (3-5k) on top of all I've done will get it to 500whp and 500wtq. Again, slower than a stock turbo S55 with a tune and ethanol alone. I wouldn't even bother with the N55 but that's just me. All respect to those who still want it and love it. I can't blame anyone, it's a sweet engine. Just not the one I'd pick if I had the choice today.
__________________
N54 135i 6MT (FBO, JB4 reflash, E30) sold
E90 M3 DCT (FBO, tuned) sold Current: Performance Edition M2 6MT (FBO, ethanol tuned by Bend Calibration/Ecutek) |
Appreciate
1
AndrewLe9013.00 |
12-05-2021, 09:19 PM | #30 | |
Captain
866
Rep 878
Posts |
Quote:
I do have another question, not M2 related, but color related. what color wheels do you guys think would look good on a black car? not really a fan of the wheels on the OG so would eventually like to replaces them. was thinking something in silver but not sure. also, do you guys daily drive your M2s? |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2021, 09:27 PM | #31 | ||
Major General
10834
Rep 6,977
Posts
Drives: 2018 M2 AW DCT
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
|
Quote:
__________________
BMWCCA member Puget Sound Chapter
|
||
Appreciate
1
Ronin76866.00 |
12-05-2021, 09:31 PM | #32 | |
Captain
866
Rep 878
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2021, 10:29 PM | #33 | ||
Captain
5111
Rep 878
Posts
Drives: ///M2
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: California
|
Quote:
From what I know, it's not as widespread as people make it out to be. I think a good percentage of cars that got it were newer or higher up in power (550+whp) but it has happened to stock cars. I think it's from rapid downshifts. For example, a DCT car going from 7th to 2nd or 3rd at WOT. It causes the crank hub to spin rapidly and break. I know the new S58 engine removed the crack hub all together from what I understand. I would still get the comp, slap some pure turbos and a crack hub and run that puppy on pump gas all day. It should be about 500whp and hit the same power levels on stock turbos with ethanol and stock fuel systems. Combine the pure turbos + ethanol and you're flying. The crank hub is about 2k. Other then that and a tune, you'll still be at the same torque as my N55 build and more WHP with 1/3 of my budget.
__________________
N54 135i 6MT (FBO, JB4 reflash, E30) sold
E90 M3 DCT (FBO, tuned) sold Current: Performance Edition M2 6MT (FBO, ethanol tuned by Bend Calibration/Ecutek) |
||
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2021, 10:30 PM | #34 | ||
Captain
5111
Rep 878
Posts
Drives: ///M2
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: California
|
Quote:
I wouldn't stress about it at all.
__________________
N54 135i 6MT (FBO, JB4 reflash, E30) sold
E90 M3 DCT (FBO, tuned) sold Current: Performance Edition M2 6MT (FBO, ethanol tuned by Bend Calibration/Ecutek) |
||
Appreciate
0
|
12-06-2021, 03:19 AM | #35 |
ghost user
243
Rep 248
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-06-2021, 04:44 AM | #36 | |
Captain
5111
Rep 878
Posts
Drives: ///M2
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: California
|
Quote:
With all that said, I miss my E90 and even after having a perfect N55 build in my eyes, I still would take the a E90 M3 over my M2. It's worse in almost every statistical category but it's the car I'd rather be in. Maybe for a track car and daily driver the M2 comp is a better pick because of the engine cooling/reliability but a proper M3 build would be incredible.
__________________
N54 135i 6MT (FBO, JB4 reflash, E30) sold
E90 M3 DCT (FBO, tuned) sold Current: Performance Edition M2 6MT (FBO, ethanol tuned by Bend Calibration/Ecutek) |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-06-2021, 02:23 PM | #37 | |
Lieutenant Colonel
2485
Rep 1,602
Posts |
Quote:
If you dont like the wheels that come with the OG, you might think about painting them. I think both sets of M2 wheels (437M and 788M) look a TON better when they're repainted in a solid color, be it silver, bronze or black. In fact, i really didn't like the 437M's at first, but now I know they're just a color change away from looking really really good. Example. Crank hub issue is probably not a big deal if you're leaving the car stock in terms of power levels. There are a lot of M3/M4 cars with the S55 engine that are getting pretty old and we're not seeing just widespread engine failure or anything like that. It also seems to be slightly more common in DCT cars. |
|
Appreciate
1
AndrewLe9013.00 |
12-08-2021, 07:30 AM | #38 | |
Lieutenant General
7528
Rep 12,316
Posts |
Quote:
I'd argue the M2C is probably the best M car out of the box, not to mention it's super playful. However, the E9x M3 was a very high mark for the M department IMO. There is nothing, and I mean nothing, like revving the engine out to 8400 RPM. I still maintain that the S65 would have been at home in far more exotic and expensive cars than the M3. Both have their places to be completely honest.
__________________
Current:
16 F82 M4 GTS, Black Sapphire/Black, DCT 08 E92 M3, Sparkling Graphite/Bamboo Beige, 6MT 07 E85 Z4M Roadster, Alpine White/Red, 6MT 99 E36 M3, Techno Violet/Dove Grey, 6MT |
|
Appreciate
1
Fined243.00 |
12-08-2021, 11:17 AM | #39 |
Captain
2381
Rep 803
Posts |
I would not pay $50k for an OG M2, considering the MSRP was $52k. It's a great car but at $50k for a 3-5 year old car it's no longer the best bang for your buck.
Save up for a comp or wait a year IMO. I paid $53k for my 2019 M2C with 6k miles last year. Even $60k for a comp is still worth it IMO as you get much more car per dollar than an OG. |
12-08-2021, 11:18 AM | #40 | ||
Major General
5873
Rep 6,638
Posts |
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
12-08-2021, 07:43 PM | #41 | |
Banned
378
Rep 348
Posts |
Quote:
No doubt the M2C has advantages, but the guy next to me in the paddock at the last BMW CCA HPDE claimed to be on his second engine as he spun his on BM3 Stage 2. He was DCT if I recall correctly. Totally anecdotal, but it’s enough to make me hesitate to pursue a big power S55 build. I’ll be hitting a M2 CS tune at max should I eventually move to a M2C. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-08-2021, 08:27 PM | #42 |
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
4751
Rep 2,557
Posts |
I have both an OG and comp M2 (as well as several E9x M3's). If you are not planning on modding the car much the comp M2 would be my preference over the OG. They can be had for close to 50 with patience. The OG is great with a bit of help over what the factory gets you. But if you track you still have the heat issues to deal with (unless you want to go way down the rabbit hole) and they still start to fall on their face as they rev out. The comp just does everything a bit better except sound. Off track to me it's a toss up - there are pros & cons to both.
That being said - as much as I love the F87's my preference is still with the E9x M3's. They need a little help from the factory but once they get it they are very hard to beat in fun factor.
__________________
|
Appreciate
1
W///7527.50 |
12-08-2021, 08:42 PM | #43 | |
Banned
378
Rep 348
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
1
OG Shark4750.50 |
12-08-2021, 08:58 PM | #44 |
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
4751
Rep 2,557
Posts |
Ha yeah you might have a point there
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|