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This coupled with the dct, in manual mode is.... nirvana The whole car feels very light and nimble, and sounds like a muscle/ferrari hybrid Ive had great drives this summer, i wouldn't change a thing with this gearbox. I feel instant torque, and this is all without having the need to put it into sport+, Even that jerkyness of first gear has seem to corrected itself over time, its all about throttle modulation Im telling you, the last few drives ive just been amazed i have this car. I understand what you say about the dct prefer in auto vs manual, but as you get to known the car more , it comes alive, Also having the option to put it into auto and eat a burrito and drink while driving cant be understated either! |
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06-16-2020, 04:56 PM | #2137 | |
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I think that is a truly perfect assessment . . . if I am going to drive a Shelby GT, it damn well better rumble like one . . . if I am going to drive a Porsche sport car, it damn well better handle like one. . . if I am going to drive a Tesla, it damn well better pull like one. The M2C is a nice blend of features that make it a great sporty coup. Exactly what I anticipated and exactly what I got. Sadly, despite its size and weight problem, the M2C is still the smallest BMW chassis - and certain to not get any smaller or lighter. The 'ICE age' is coming to an end, along with the acoustic thrill as you climb to red line - that has pretty much already been lost with turbo engines anyway. Automatic transmissions are incredible and capable of matching a driver's spirited desires. . . All of these factors are making the MT and DCT obsolete. I do not blame BMW for their decided direction, as it is just where things are going. . . . what I can - and do - blame BMW for is losing their way when it comes to design, but that topic has yet to become reality on the M2 sub-forum. ///AVM Last edited by ///AVM; 06-16-2020 at 05:04 PM.. |
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06-16-2020, 05:02 PM | #2138 | |
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I love it. I love your enthusiasm. I would not try to change it for a moment. Even though I do not agree with your assessment through my own experiences, I do absolutely enjoy what my M2C has to offer. . . if I want a different driving experience, well, I have that too. Enjoy your summer months out on the open roads my friend! ///AVM |
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06-16-2020, 06:20 PM | #2139 | |
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06-16-2020, 06:41 PM | #2140 |
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I think I pretty well state my perspective in post #2140 above . . . DCT manual mode simply does not inspire me in the M2C chassis. I do, however, find the automatic (Sport Pus) mode well suited for the M2C chassis. Again, my comments are not intended to change your perspective. If you find enjoyment with DCT manual mode - and you clearly do - that is all that matters. ///AVM |
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06-16-2020, 09:06 PM | #2142 | |
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If you're on the fence, you're more than welcome to take my M for a drive, and get a feel for the 6MT. |
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06-16-2020, 09:12 PM | #2143 | |
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I, myself, If I'm getting anything in the M2 platform, it has to be a manual.. When I get so old and I can't move my neck horizontally anymore, then I'll settle for an ZF8 auto/paddles, 5 Series, with Lane Change Assistance.. |
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06-16-2020, 10:14 PM | #2144 | |
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06-16-2020, 10:22 PM | #2145 | |
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6MT is a no-brainer on this car. It is absurd not to order it. Last (manual transmission + manual handbrake) German car and will be way more valuable down the road than DCT. We are thinking it, just feel bad saying it. |
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06-17-2020, 09:09 AM | #2147 |
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I'm in the 6mt camp and likely couldn't be swayed, but I'm also not chasing lap times. I want something a little more engaging during my daily commute. If I really don't want to shift it's probably got enough tq to start in second gear where I could leave it for my stop and go activities.
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06-17-2020, 09:35 AM | #2148 | |
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That sounds curt, but not intended to be such. When it is your money and your car, you get what you want . . . does not have to make sense to anyone else. ///AVM |
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06-17-2020, 09:54 AM | #2149 |
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I'll try to dig it up if someone doesn't have the answer - but is the 6MT in these M2's the same as in my F30 335? I find it to be one of the better BMW manuals, and thoroughly enjoy it. If the CS manual is at least that good I'll be a happy camper.
EDIT: (according to real OEM it looks like the same transmission in the M2C and my 2014 335 - GS6-45BZ).
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In my searching there was a switch at the N54 to N55 engine (GS6-53DZ to GS6-45BZ). Since the N55 everything has been on the same manual transmission in the 2 and 3 series at least from what I can see. It seems like the newer transmission is preferred over what was attached to the N54 as there were multiple threads I stumbled on with discussions on how to swap to the newer 6 speed. I didn't find much on ratings for the 6 speed for power holding, or if any shifting improvements/revisions were made at any point or not (thought I saw a mention in one of the CS reviews about some kind of updated synchro treatment).
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The specific part numbers are different for the GS6-45BZ between the 340i version and M2/M3/M4 versions likely at least for gearing differences perhaps.
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06-17-2020, 11:06 AM | #2155 | |
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Also, in North America, the M2 manual has a 50% take rate, which is staggering, that is with dealers almost always ordering the DCT at the higher price. M2 buyers, the people that like the M2, and order the M2, are ordering manuals at a very high rate. Just my $.02 |
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When the M2 and M2C came out there were claims by BMW in their promotional material that there were improvements made to the shift linkage. I remember something about more precision with CF bushings. Given BMWs promotional track record, I don't know how true it was.
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