[///AVM]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

October? That long? Crap. My dealer couldn't/wouldn't give me an estimated date and I don't have the tracking info yet. Maybe I will buy the '20 sitting on the lot at the other dealer.

Fly

If they have a build that you like, why not?

///AVM

[Davil]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

CS

Great point and most certainly applicable to MT. However, this also speaks to another reason why I have converted from MT to the DCT manual mode fan club.

In DCT manual mode you have full permission to power shift, so taking revs to red line (beyond where things 'flatten out') is not required optimize power band through shifts. You never have to release throttle to shift.

Power band optimization aside, my desire to get the climb to - or closer to - red line, relates to 'engagement.' By this I mean experiencing the crescendo (continuous climb) in terms of pull and engine wind.

Finally, I am not versed in all makes and models, however, within the BMW model lineup I am not aware of any MT that supports safe power shifting. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Within the Porsche model lineup, I am familiar with only the 911 GT variants having MT that supports safe power shifting. There has been chatter of how the GT4 supported MT power shifting, but I believe this has been convincingly dispelled.

///AVM

Revs drop when you change gear regardless of shift speed. I'm not continuing this conversation.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Fly

If they have a build that you like, why not?

///AVM

Distance and time, mainly. The car is in TN; I'm in NH. I would need a minimum of three days to get down there and get it. Then factor in gas, food, lodging costs, etc. and mileage on the car. It is tempting, and I may do it anyway depending on what my dealer says about delivery date.

I could ship the car to me, but that is another added cost. Basically, it boils down to how quickly do I want the car and how much I am willing to pay for that convenience.

[AUSf22]

Originally Posted by Gizmo 335i

My journey...ordered my ‘ 21 M2C on 7/23/20. BSM, orange stitching, 6-spd, slick top, executive package. Took 24 hours of BS to get just 2.7% under MSRP. Due beginning of October. Long 10 weeks. Already have a small list of minor mods

You'll be OK!

A lot of us down here in Australia ordered our cars in Feb / May.

We are scheduled for a Sept/Oct delivery.

Think about us everytime you feel like the wait is long, just know the aussies are waiting twice as long . Should make you feel a tad better

[Gizmo 335i]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

October? That long? Crap. My dealer couldn't/wouldn't give me an estimated date and I don't have the tracking info yet. Maybe I will buy the '20 sitting on the lot at the other dealer.

I’ll be fine. I already sold my jag so it will give me a few months without a payment 😬. That means bimmercode, rear diffuser, sound deadening, 788s painted all silver, maybe UCP...

[j0oftheworld]

2 friends ordered 1st/2nd weeks of July were told Sept delivery. My car took 7 days to get through the Panama canal in April! Painful!

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Distance and time, mainly. The car is in TN; I'm in NH. I would need a minimum of three days to get down there and get it. Then factor in gas, food, lodging costs, etc. and mileage on the car. It is tempting, and I may do it anyway depending on what my dealer says about delivery date.

I could ship the car to me, but that is another added cost. Basically, it boils down to how quickly do I want the car and how much I am willing to pay for that convenience.

Fly

Understandable . . . when you stated getting 20' sitting on the 'other lot' I had impression you were referring to another lot just up the road. Obviously, NH to TN is not just up the road.

///AVM

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

CS

Great point and most certainly applicable to MT. However, this also speaks to another reason why I have converted from MT to the DCT manual mode fan club.

In DCT manual mode you have full permission to power shift, so taking revs to red line (beyond where things 'flatten out') is not required optimize power band through shifts. You never have to release throttle to shift.

Power band optimization aside, my desire to get the climb to - or closer to - red line, relates to 'engagement.' By this I mean experiencing the crescendo (continuous climb) in terms of pull and engine wind.

Finally, I am not versed in all makes and models, however, within the BMW model lineup I am not aware of any MT that supports safe power shifting. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Within the Porsche model lineup, I am familiar with only the 911 GT variants having MT that supports safe power shifting. There has been chatter of how the GT4 supported MT power shifting, but I believe this has been convincingly dispelled.

///AVM

I fully understand how DCT can/does operate. Let's put it this way...if I had a DCT M2C and was racing an identical M2C at the strip for pink slips, the last thing I would be doing is short shifting the car and dropping each new gear into a sub-optimal point in the S55 power curve. Conversely, if you want to race head-to-head for pink slips and agree to shift every gear at 6k rpms, I'm in.

[Gizmo 335i]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Tell me about it; red leather seats are my jam. : drool::d rool:

Old post but if the M2c came with the black/red combo I’d have a 24/7 chubby.

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

October? That long? Crap. My dealer couldn't/wouldn't give me an estimated date and I don't have the tracking info yet. Maybe I will buy the '20 sitting on the lot at the other dealer.

October is normal. Generally when you order a car it takes two months for shipment.

[ADDONE]

My CA has 4 allocations for 2021 M2 Competition with production numbers that can still be modified. Mine is already on a vessel on its way to Charleston for PCD. Send me a message if you're ready to buy and wish to contact my CA.

[jason.seki]

Hi guys, just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the helpful information! My 2021 M2C is at port currently and I am counting down the days!

[papibigred]

Originally Posted by mikeyymonster

Why the switch to HS?

I prefer the HS but none were available with Manual, or at least my dealer couldn't get one when I went to order. So I could get what I wanted in a '21.

So now its been 3 weeks that it continues to sit in the port.

[AUSf22]

Just got an update, car is now status 195 (on a boat)

Takes about 8 weeks on a boat to AU in this current climate.
Due to dock 11/09/2020 so I will probably take delivery towards the end of the month.

[JCZ5]

Originally Posted by AUSf22

Just got an update, car is now status 195 (on a boat)

Takes about 8 weeks on a boat to AU in this current climate.
Due to dock 11/09/2020 so I will probably take delivery towards the end of the month as I'm in a different state to where the port is.

Wow, what a journey! Sure tells me not to complain about my wait anymore.

Btw, I was watching this documentary the other day. Pretty interesting and maybe very similar to your boat 😂

[AUSf22]

Originally Posted by JCZ5

Wow, what a journey! Sure tells me not to complain about my wait anymore.

Btw, I was watching this documentary the other day. Pretty interesting and maybe very similar to your boat ��

Ah yes I think it on a boat just like that! if not the same one I hope my car is on the middle level somewhere to not be exposed to the harsh elements, my previous car had very rusty hubs due to this)
So if I take delivery late Sept, it will be 5 months from when I ordered till I take delivery (covid had severly delayed it, normally would be 3-4months).

2 of those months are taken by the car being on a boat for us

[///AVM]

Given the size of that boat, BMW should just build a boat instead of a plant. In that way they could just build the cars as they move from port to port around the world. Sounds crazy, but I might be on to something here

///AVM

[Mavallone]

Originally Posted by AUSf22

Just got an update, car is now status 195 (on a boat)

Takes about 8 weeks on a boat to AU in this current climate.
Due to dock 11/09/2020 so I will probably take delivery towards the end of the month.

Congrats! Another step closer.

I was thinking the other day, I will have to find something else to obsess about once my car arrives! I guess dirt, paint chips, parking lot dangers will do nicely.

[Hegge]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Given the size of that boat, BMW should just build a boat instead of a plant. In that way they could just build the cars as they move from port to port around the world. Sounds crazy, but I might be on to something here

///AVM

I like this idea. Some of the cars that they are building like the M8 remind me of large boats. The new M4 is looking like a large boat too. They should put the biggest engine that they can in the M2 chassis.

[richard in NC]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

CS

Great point and most certainly applicable to MT. However, this also speaks to another reason why I have converted from MT to the DCT manual mode fan club.

In DCT manual mode you have full permission to power shift, so taking revs to red line (beyond where things 'flatten out') is not required optimize power band through shifts. You never have to release throttle to shift.

Power band optimization aside, my desire to get the climb to - or closer to - red line, relates to 'engagement.' By this I mean experiencing the crescendo (continuous climb) in terms of pull and engine wind.

Finally, I am not versed in all makes and models, however, within the BMW model lineup I am not aware of any MT that supports safe power shifting. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Within the Porsche model lineup, I am familiar with only the 911 GT variants having MT that supports safe power shifting. There has been chatter of how the GT4 supported MT power shifting, but I believe this has been convincingly dispelled.

///AVM

There may be no additional power at 7k but waiting until 7k or more to shift, puts the next gear into better power, 20% higher revs for example. Its about maximizing power under the curve throughout acceleration.

[richard in NC]

I was surprised when I looked at the specs. The 7 speed DCT is actually wider spaced gearing than the 6 speed manual. A much deeper first gear and second. Similar 3-6, and a taller 7th for cruising. Same final drive too. Also included are power specs. Bottom line in the DCT, shifting at redline vs 6k from 1-2 drops you to 3900 vs 3200 rpm, resulting in 20% more power after the shift, so yes it's worth holding until 7k-7500 rpm.

[medphysdave]

That's interesting info. A more agressive 1-2 can make a heavy car feel much lighter. I'm not sure if id be happy with DCT. Coming from the zf8, I find paddle shifting boring. However, it is nice to just be able to cruise when you want to not think about it.