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      02-06-2019, 12:49 PM   #23
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I had to spend quite a bit of time in Munich for my last job and I can tell you that they are quite particular about their winter tires. I've definitely seen snow there in February, even March, and there is pretty much no question in anyone's mind that the winter tires stay on until the last snow. It's a cultural thing, also. These are the rules so should be followed. If you were running around in summer tires in February I wouldn't be surprised if someone didn't call you out in it. And practically, even if there's no snow on the ground, it gets quite cold and as we've seen (
) summer tires will not perform well in the cold.

They won't pull you over for it, but if you get into an accident they will give you a substantial fine for not having them on. Driving a brand new / unfamiliar car on unfamiliar roads when it's gonna be cold for sure, possibly snowing, and literally everyone else has winter tires on. I'd not risk it.
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      02-09-2019, 08:08 AM   #25
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I am on the train to München now. Pick-up of my HS 6MT M2C is Monday. I will be making the drive - slowly and very carefully - back home. It is about 290 miles from the Welt. Winter tires are ready and will be installed first-thing Tuesday morning. I am not thrilled about taking the risk but getting 4 wheels on the train, to my hotel, to the Welt, into the new car, only to take dirty summer wheels off (at a random location) and putting them in the new car, is a no-go.
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I am on the train to München now. Pick-up of my HS 6MT M2C is Monday. I will be making the drive - slowly and very carefully - back home. It is about 290 miles from the Welt. Winter tires are ready and will be installed first-thing Tuesday morning. I am not thrilled about taking the risk but getting 4 wheels on the train, to my hotel, to the Welt, into the new car, only to take dirty summer wheels off (at a random location) and putting them in the new car, is a no-go.
I'm leaving it @ the pickup, with tourist plates and most likely obnoxious "Patriots Super Bowl champions" stickers on the back I will get pulled over with a fat ticket

seriously, I'm with my 13 year old son, I can't chance it.

Roads here and weather mirror Germany, few week ago was warm near 45/50F but nights dropped below freezing, my friend got tempted to take his 2017 m3 out of his garage with summer tires (big mistake) 8pm going to dinner with his wife he slid off road driving conservatively (no one was hurt but needed a tow)

That and a few members experience in the area made me plan to just leave it, be safe

In short beware of night temps, road conditions change, good luck on your drive home hopefully you can make it daytime
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Leaving today for Euro Delivery, snow in the forecast then 45 degrees mid week

Decided to just leave it @ the welt for shipping (small fee)

driven from Massachusetts to Florida most winters in my life (wife hates flying) cold snowy New England to sunny Florida, on route some winters in Georgia a warm climate state gets (some) snow, when that happens the its like a state of emergency highway's closed, most from 4 season states would laugh what these country bumpkins get scared about, My state has 800+ pieces of equipment for clearing/salting roads GA likely has just a few

I hope it's not like that in Munich, business as usual with a few inches of snow not road closures and panic
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Have a good trip! I leave on Wednesday for Friday 2/15 pickup at the Welt.
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Have a good trip! I leave on Wednesday for Friday 2/15 pickup at the Welt.
Ty, you get the good weather 45F for days
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I'm @ the Marriott, snowy rainy weather, rented a car already now just resting for tomorrow

Btw, not impressed with this hotel, it's just a place to rest, our first room looked like it was from 1990, got a refinished room much better

getting cleaned up for dinner soon then back to rest, we feel like we walked here

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With my father & son
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Driving on the cold, wet roads of München after picking up my car today wasn’t as harrowing as the hype suggests. It was snowing for a good portion of the day but it wasn’t ‘sticking’. Had there been ice on the roads, it would be another story. Biggest risk today was the polizei and insurance company refusing to pony-up if I got into an accident. Snow tires get installed tonorrow.
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Yeah, it's illegal to not have winter tires on the car between certain months.

If you're doing Euro delivery, please don't continue to perpetuate the "dumbass American" stereotype by skipping winter rubber.
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If they have a X3M on display at the Welt when you get there take some pics and let me know what you think in real life. May replace my F80 with one later this year.
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If they have a X3M on display at the Welt when you get there take some pics and let me know what you think in real life. May replace my F80 with one later this year.
Will do! I'm sitting in the lounge at DFW now waiting for my boarding call... 787 business class FTW!
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Have a good trip! I leave on Wednesday for Friday 2/15 pickup at the Welt.
If they have a X3M on display at the Welt when you get there take some pics and let me know what you think in real life. May replace my F80 with one later this year.
Will do! I'm sitting in the lounge at DFW now waiting for my boarding call... 787 business class FTW!
No X3M on display. Sorry. Plenty of other M eye candy including a HS M2C. Factory tour in about an hour with delivery moved up to 14:30!
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Have a good trip! I leave on Wednesday for Friday 2/15 pickup at the Welt.
If they have a X3M on display at the Welt when you get there take some pics and let me know what you think in real life. May replace my F80 with one later this year.
Will do! I'm sitting in the lounge at DFW now waiting for my boarding call... 787 business class FTW!
No X3M on display. Sorry. Plenty of other M eye candy including a HS M2C. Factory tour in about an hour with delivery moved up to 14:30!
Enjoy, got mine on Tuesday
@ the lounge I think I ate 2 or 3 apple strudel with cream sauce...
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No X3M on display. Sorry. Plenty of other M eye candy including a HS M2C. Factory tour in about an hour with delivery moved up to 14:30!
Sounds like they haven't changed the display since I was there. Bummer. Did you check out the glass cone? They had a bunch of M cars in there.

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