[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by mcvaughan

Better option than ET25?

The 18x10 ET25s can also be run as a square setup on this chassis. They eliminate the need for a spacer up front but make fitment in the rear more difficult. We generally recommend running at least -2 degrees of camber in the rear with these wheels although the camber requirement will vary depending on the model and size of the rear tires and the ride height of the car. Significant negative camber is still required up front as well.

Either square option is viable, but the 18x10 ET33 is in my opinion slightly more flexible which is why I recommend it more often. For those looking for an aggressive spacer-free setup, the 18x10 ET25s can certainly work, but they are not a direct fit.

-Tom

[Wisco M3]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

The 18x10 ET25s can also be run as a square setup on this chassis. They eliminate the need for a spacer up front but make fitment in the rear more difficult. We generally recommend running at least -2 degrees of camber in the rear with these wheels although the camber requirement will vary depending on the model and size of the rear tires and the ride height of the car. Significant negative camber is still required up front as well.

Either square option is viable, but the 18x10 ET33 is in my opinion slightly more flexible which is why I recommend it more often. For those looking for an aggressive spacer-free setup, the 18x10 ET25s can certainly work, but they are not a direct fit.

-Tom

Tom -
I was contemplating trying to get the 18x10.5 et27s to fit. By my maths, that should be close in the rear without doing fender mods and should require less mods in front? I’m trying to build for a class with a max rim width of 11” and tires of 295. I can roll fenders but that’s it.

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by Wisco M3

Tom -
I was contemplating trying to get the 18x10.5 et27s to fit. By my maths, that should be close in the rear without doing fender mods and should require less mods in front? I’m trying to build for a class with a max rim width of 11” and tires of 295. I can roll fenders but that’s it.

The 18x10.5 ET27 will buy you more space compared to the 18x10.5 ET22 wheels, but it will still be difficult to fit in the rear. It will require less mods to fit up front certainly but I'm not convinced that it will clear the rear fenders with an aggressive tire and track-oriented ride-height. Those wheels are 13 mm more aggressive than the Tyspeed setup which fills the rear fenders on the 18x10.5 ET40 wheels with 295/30-18 tires.



With enough time and some massaging, you could probably make the 18x10.5 ET27s work but you are moving the fitment problem from the front of the car to the rear rather than eliminating it entirely with the ET27 wheels.

-Tom

[Wisco M3]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

With enough time and some massaging, you could probably make the 18x10.5 ET27s work but you are moving the fitment problem from the front of the car to the rear rather than eliminating it entirely with the ET27 wheels.

-Tom

Crap, I was really hoping to have my cake and eat it too. Is it really too much to ask to have a square set of wheels that maximizes the wheel width on a car designed with staggered widths, all without the use of massive spacers? In truth, I'm just lazy and hate flipping tires and wanted to go square so I could rotate whichever way I wanted.

Oh well, I definitely appreciate your help and insight. You've saved me some cash from unnecessary experimentation.

[Expert@ApexWheels]

The APEX FL-5 really suits the lines of the M2, especially with a meaty track tire.

APEX Wheel Fitment Specs:

• Front/Rear: 18x9.5" ET28 FL-5 in Race Silver
• Suspension: Stock suspension with camber plates and -3.0 degrees in front

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

The APEX FL-5 really suits the lines of the M2, especially with a meaty track tire.

APEX Wheel Fitment Specs:

• Front/Rear: 18x9.5" ET28 FL-5 in Race Silver
• Suspension: Stock suspension with camber plates and -3.0 degrees in front

19" M2 Comp compatible please.

[rwemersonrw]

EC-7

[MovingChicane]

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

EC-7

Looks good!

19's in their standard offsets over factory Comp brakes, or a different setup?
Tire sizes?

[oli-nsf]

Is there any 18 FL-5 wheel that will fit the M2 LCI with OEM suspension without any mods (no camber plate, no spacer) for the front

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by oli-nsf

Is there any 18 FL-5 wheel that will fit the M2 LCI with OEM suspension without any mods (no camber plate, no spacer) for the front

Hi there,

If you do not have the larger 2NH brake package on your M2, you can run the following FL-5 setup as a direct fit:

Front: 18x9.5" ET28 with 265/35-18 tires
Rear: 18x10.5" ET40 with 285/35-18 tires
-Won't fit M2 Competition with 2NH brake package.
-Available in ARC-8R, EC-7R, and FL-5 designs.
-Front negative camber may be required.
-5mm front spacers or larger may be required with certain aftermarket
suspensions, see below.
-Front 275/35-18 tires can also fit with additional negative camber.
-Rear 295/35-18 tires can also fit.
-Rear 305/35-18 tires can fit with aggressive negative camber and/or
rolled/pulled fenders when using aggressive tire compounds.

With a 18x9.5" ET28 front and a 18x10.5" ET40 rear, you can run 265/35-18 front and 285/35-18 rear tires as a mostly direct fit. As long as you are using street focused tire compounds, you can typically get away with the stock camber settings up front. However, with track tires that tend to run a bit wider than their sizing suggests, front camber plates will typically be required for a rub-free fitment.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach out!

-Geirsen

[oli-nsf]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

Hi there,

If you do not have the larger 2NH brake package on your M2, you can run the following FL-5 setup as a direct fit:

Front: 18x9.5" ET28 with 265/35-18 tires
Rear: 18x10.5" ET40 with 285/35-18 tires
-Won't fit M2 Competition with 2NH brake package.
-Available in ARC-8R, EC-7R, and FL-5 designs.
-Front negative camber may be required.
-5mm front spacers or larger may be required with certain aftermarket
suspensions, see below.
-Front 275/35-18 tires can also fit with additional negative camber.
-Rear 295/35-18 tires can also fit.
-Rear 305/35-18 tires can fit with aggressive negative camber and/or
rolled/pulled fenders when using aggressive tire compounds.

With a 18x9.5" ET28 front and a 18x10.5" ET40 rear, you can run 265/35-18 front and 285/35-18 rear tires as a mostly direct fit. As long as you are using street focused tire compounds, you can typically get away with the stock camber settings up front. However, with track tires that tend to run a bit wider than their sizing suggests, front camber plates will typically be required for a rub-free fitment.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach out!

-Geirsen

Great thanks !

I'm indeed looking the put some track focused tires. Will I have the same problem with FL-5 18x9 ET30 with 245/40-18 tires ?

[eric_rebo]

Here is ec7 19 9.5 et28 10.5 et45 with 265/30/19 195/30/19 trofeo r

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by oli-nsf

Great thanks !

I'm indeed looking the put some track focused tires. Will I have the same problem with FL-5 18x9 ET30 with 245/40-18 tires ?

Hi there,

Just as a heads-up, most track-focused tire compounds are designed to work with increased negative camber. With stock M2 front camber settings, you will chew through the outer shoulders of just about any track-focused tire. Increased front negative camber is highly recommended not just from a fitment perspective, but also for performance and tire longevity, as well.

With that being said, the 18x9" ET30 FL-5 can work with a 245/40-18 as a direct fit. However, that wheel size is typically our winter wheel setup recommendation for the M2. The 18x9.5" ET28 is a much better fit for a track application.

-Geirsen

[oli-nsf]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

Hi there,

Just as a heads-up, most track-focused tire compounds are designed to work with increased negative camber. With stock M2 front camber settings, you will chew through the outer shoulders of just about any track-focused tire. Increased front negative camber is highly recommended not just from a fitment perspective, but also for performance and tire longevity, as well.

With that being said, the 18x9" ET30 FL-5 can work with a 245/40-18 as a direct fit. However, that wheel size is typically our winter wheel setup recommendation for the M2. The 18x9.5" ET28 is a much better fit for a track application.

-Geirsen

Thanks for the reply! I think I need to reconsider my upgrade priorities ^^

[MovingChicane]

Originally Posted by eric_rebo

Here is ec7 19 9.5 et28 10.5 et45 with 265/30/19 195/30/19 trofeo r

Spacers? What suspension?

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by MovingChicane

Spacers? What suspension?

If he's running 265/30/19 on 9.5 +28 he'll need a spacer if he isn't on stock suspension. They usually recommend 5mm to clear the larger spring.

[bkd705]

Expert@ApexRaceParts Do you guys have any pics of a Comp (2NH) running the new SM-10s yet?

Also are your delivery timelines relatively accurate, I know with COVID some things get thrown off but based on the site its looking like mid-May for EC-7s and June for SM-10s?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by bkd705

Expert@ApexRaceParts Do you guys have any pics of a Comp (2NH) running the new SM-10s yet?

Also are your delivery timelines relatively accurate, I know with COVID some things get thrown off but based on the site its looking like mid-May for EC-7s and June for SM-10s?

Hi there,

We don't have any on-car pictures of the new 19" M2C spec SM-10 wheels quite yet. However, we should start to get plenty once orders begin to ship out.

ETA-wise, that is correct. We are expecting new inventory for the EC-7s around mid-May and around mid-June for the SM-10s.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions!

-Geirsen

[aftercorbu]

When was the last group buy for m2 comp fitment? Or has the been one? And might you do one for the new sm-10 fitment?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by aftercorbu

When was the last group buy for m2 comp fitment? Or has the been one? And might you do one for the new sm-10 fitment?

We had a group buy on these wheels when they first launched but we haven't had one for a while. We are not planning on any Group Buys for the launch of the SM-10s. We've been struggling to keep the M2C EC-7s in stock at their standard MSRP so I don't anticipate any Group Buys on these wheels in the near future.

Thanks!

-Tom

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Jacob's BMW F87M2 with 18" FL-5 wheels in Satin Black Finish.

APEX Wheel Fitment Specs:

• Front: 18x10.5" ET40 FL-5s with 285/30-18 tires
• Rear: 18x10.5" ET40 FL-5s with 295/30-18 tires
• 23mm spacer in front

Owner's Instagram: @jacob_film

[eric_rebo]

Originally Posted by MovingChicane

Spacers? What suspension?

Kw v3 with ground control camber plates with -3.5 camber and 10mm spacer in front