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M2 CS closest to 1M in value hold + long term perspective in electric vehicles future
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To early to tell. We don’t know pricing and production quantities.
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07-01-2019, 11:48 PM | #4 |
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It's a car, so strong to quite strong chance it's going to depreciate. Not sure what to make of the 1M though, not sure why it's holding it's value so well. I know this will likely offend some (sorry), but the 1M didn't drive as well as I would have expected for it's depreciation curve.
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No offense taken, you either get it or you do not. I think it is absolutely amazing, but you may like something different. I Personally like the 1M (steering/chasis/size) trifecta more than any car I have ever owned, but a M2CS with European Delivery and full warranty is enticing. I just don't know if I could ever go back to EPS steering..... I will be curious what the final weight savings will be on the M2CS? |
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No, this will not hold value like a 1M. The 1M was an anomaly. Check out the M4 CS - they are practically giving them away and it is the best / most rare F82.
The car is a slight tweak of an M2C, so you already know what it's going to drive like. (Note on M4 CS, I didn't forget the GTS exists, but it didn't get a great reception and they also had to heavily discount them) Last edited by chris719; 07-02-2019 at 02:24 AM.. |
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I think you should look at a Cayman GT4 if you want some of the feedback lost by BMW over the years. As for M2 CS, the weight savings might be 20-25 kg, but it's mostly from body panels you could retrofit to the M2C. Carbon ceramic brakes would be the biggest tangible improvement if you can option them. |
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07-02-2019, 03:36 AM | #9 |
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If 2200 units only M2CS is probably a good investment to make a small profit on. Don't expect massive gains though
With car companies releasing countless 'limited edition' models on a yearly basis, the whole 'rarity aspect' has lost a lot of its meaning Cars like 1M, E85 Z4 M, Z8 and E46 M3 CSL have appreciated value not only because of the rarity factor but also because arguably because they are the last of the real driver cars (hydraulic steering, naturally aspirated, old school feeling). |
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Also the 1M was the first if it's kind for BMW and last with a hydraulic steering rack. Unless the CS is the last RWD or last manual car BMW makes, which sounds unlikely, it won't avoid depreciation. You want to avoid depreciation get gt3 touring or the new gt4 when it comes out. |
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ppl forget the 1m was only made for 2yrs and they only imported a total of 1600 of them. Also at the time ppl were paying $15k above msrp for them new...so in a sense they did depreciate if your comparing the market price and not msrp.
I think the m2cs will hold its value if they make the next gen m2 fwd-awd based on the new 135 platform and bmw makes it a rs3 competitor. |
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But I still don't get why they are holding their value so well. I haven't driven one, so maybe that's why I don't get it. But still, when the M2 came out I expected the 1M values to drop. I think it's mostly the fact that there are so few 1M cars out there that makes them valuable. |
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Z4 M with time became a collectible because it ended up being the only Z car with a real M engine and a good one too Collectors market is a niche thing though. You really need a pristine condition, low mileage and very special car to actually turn a big profit. But even then, as per my experience with a used low mileage z4m, an old car is an old car and you will have to deal with a lot of annoying small and big things unrelated to how the car was taken care of. Last edited by Dav3; 07-02-2019 at 09:12 PM.. |
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I also prefer 997/987 hydraulic steering on 911's and Caymans. Hydraulic is the "feel" that so many enthusiasts reminisce about with older cars. Porsche makes decent EPS, but the cars are rear and mid-engine and much lighter, so they have an easier task, the steering is precise and nicely weighted, but still lacks the hydraulic "feel". |
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I also think the E8x 1er is pretty ugly in general. The 1M elevates that status to an acquired taste, as you note . |
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No they won’t. They are already discounting 2020’s. If it were sooo amazing there is no way there would be discounts now. This is just a great car but no way will it match the 1m hype
Whoops you meant the CS. Hell maybe?!? |
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