[nachob]

For disclosure, I don't own an M2 but I appreciate several aspects of the M2. I was heavily considering it but by the time it came out, there were too many little things that I didn't like about the M2, that I gave up my slot and bought another car. However, one thing I liked about the M2 was that it sounded great on the outside. The exhaust sound was one of the better modern sounds I had heard. I have now heard several M2s and M2Cs including yesterday when I heard an M2C in full anger going up an on-ramp. It sounded terrible. So those of you with regular M2s, point for you! : )

Yes, you might not be as fast going up the ramp, but at least you are providing pleasant sounds to other car enthusiasts.

Final, thought on the same subject. I have yet to hear an "upgraded" M2 exhaust that sounds as good as the stock M2 exhaust so if you have the best in class outside sound, leave it alone!

Best wishes.

[nosbocaj]

Originally Posted by nachob

Final, thought on the same subject. I have yet to hear an "upgraded" M2 exhaust that sounds as good as the stock M2 exhaust so if you have the best in class outside sound, leave it alone!

You're going to anger a lot of MPE owners with this one!

Honestly, the car does have a great sounding stock exhaust. My only addition was a Fabspeed Downpipe, which added just a little bit more sound without being too much. I think it's perfect. To each their own!

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by nachob

I have yet to hear an "upgraded" M2 exhaust that sounds as good as the stock M2 exhaust

*RemusUSA has entered the chat*

[heavyD^2]

It does sound very good stock for a non-V8 car. I have had a few people ask me what exhaust I have on the car (it’s stock) which is always a good sign.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by nachob

For disclosure, I don't own an M2 but I appreciate several aspects of the M2. I was heavily considering it but by the time it came out, there were too many little things that I didn't like about the M2, that I gave up my slot and bought another car. However, one thing I liked about the M2 was that it sounded great on the outside. The exhaust sound was one of the better modern sounds I had heard. I have now heard several M2s and M2Cs including yesterday when I heard an M2C in full anger going up an on-ramp. It sounded terrible. So those of you with regular M2s, point for you! : )

Yes, you might not be as fast going up the ramp, but at least you are providing pleasant sounds to other car enthusiasts.

Final, thought on the same subject. I have yet to hear an "upgraded" M2 exhaust that sounds as good as the stock M2 exhaust so if you have the best in class outside sound, leave it alone!

Best wishes.

Would be interested to hear what exhaust systems you've heard to make this determination.

To my ears, the MPE sounds utterly fantastic.

[infinitekidM2C]

Riveting post nacho.

[Artemis]

Big Brother is hearing you (soon).

See for example:

• here ("Mercedes-AMG warns next-generation sports cars will be quieter - EU legislation is set to strangle once-proud soundtracks of performance manufacturers");
• here ("Mercedes-AMG exhausts will be quieter here because of EU regulations - Tightening restrictions mean fewer crackles and pops");
• here ("'Acoustic cameras' tested in bid to cut noisy vehicles");
• here ("They’re up and running in France. First ‘noise’ cameras from the cops trialing on real roads and just one catches hundreds on it’s first Sunday ‘live’. Uh oh…");
• here ("‘Noise cameras’ will know if your car's too loud");
• here ("Silence of the Lambos: Council want to end supercar roar on London streets by using sound cameras").

[Dav3]

Originally Posted by nachob

However, one thing I liked about the M2 was that it sounded great on the outside. The exhaust sound was one of the better modern sounds I had heard. I have now heard several M2s and M2Cs including yesterday when I heard an M2C in full anger going up an on-ramp. It sounded terrible.

While I'm not going to argue that N55 has a much better exhaust tune than the S55, I do want to point out that exhaust sound is a massively overrated feature

Why? Because cabin insulation in new BMW's is on-point. Even with ASD turned off and with a catless straight-pipe exhaust system, interior noise has nothing to do with exterior noise. And don't get me started on Drone.

While I love the OG M2, I'd rather have the S55 engine than a good exhaust sound I personally won't even hear.

I do agree that stock OG M2 sound is the best though. The M-Performance Exhaust on my OG M2 was a contributing factor in why I sold the car. Over-priced perpetually droning piece of garbage.

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Big Brother is hearing you (soon).

See for example:

• here ("Mercedes-AMG warns next-generation sports cars will be quieter - EU legislation is set to strangle once-proud soundtracks of performance manufacturers");
• here ("Mercedes-AMG exhausts will be quieter here because of EU regulations - Tightening restrictions mean fewer crackles and pops");
• here ("'Acoustic cameras' tested in bid to cut noisy vehicles");
• here ("They’re up and running in France. First ‘noise’ cameras from the cops trialing on real roads and just one catches hundreds on it’s first Sunday ‘live’. Uh oh…");
• here ("‘Noise cameras’ will know if your car's too loud");
• here ("Silence of the Lambos: Council want to end supercar roar on London streets by using sound cameras").

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Dont worry england will lead the way when they exit out of that failed union called Europe

And all these draco laws will be cast aside and fall like a pile of dried leaves

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by Dav3

While I'm not going to argue that N55 has a much better exhaust tune than the S55, I do want to point out that exhaust sound is a massively overrated feature

Why? Because cabin insulation in new BMW's is on-point. Even with ASD turned off and with a catless straight-pipe exhaust system, interior noise has nothing to do with exterior noise. And don't get me started on Drone.

While I love the OG M2, I'd rather have the S55 engine than a good exhaust sound I personally won't even hear.

I do agree that stock OG M2 sound is the best though. The M-Performance Exhaust on my OG M2 was a contributing factor in why I sold the car. Over-priced perpetually droning piece of garbage.

Amg worked extra hard on their 63s to make sure the bi turbo engine was acoustically pleasing as it was performing

Everyone knows the aural satisfaction is half the experience of a sports car!

Im not sure how you say you had mpe in your og and could barely hear it!? Did you ever open the flaps, sometimes im like damn maybe thats a lil overkill!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Dont worry england will lead the way when they exit out of that failed union called Europe
And all these draco laws will be cast aside and fall like a pile of dried leaves

Canada also has a pilot project of 'noise cameras' in Edmonton, but something went wrong at the start...

See here ("Vehicle noise monitors that encourage more noise ‘reason to discontinue pilot’: Edmonton mayor") and here ("Edmonton turns off 4 vehicle noise displays after complaints of stunting, intentional noise").

[nachob]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Would be interested to hear what exhaust systems you've heard to make this determination.

To my ears, the MPE sounds utterly fantastic.

Exhaust sounds are just personal, like Coke, Mexican Coke or Pepsi, Diet Coke, etc. I am a big fan of MPE and have owned MPE exhausts in my E46. Loved it.

So for my taste buds, the stock exhaust is just right. The MPE sounds better at idle than stock but like stock exhaust more as revs go up. Just my taste. I have not conducted a brand survey but some sounds have some advantages at idle or revs but overall, the stock M2 exhaust is great to me.

Also, you cannot make gold out of tin so any exhaust on the original M2 will probably sound better to ME than anything in the M2C. The tone is just not pleasant to ME. Didn't mean to start an exhaust war.

I simply wanted to express my appreciation for the original M2 exhaust tone outside the car compared to the latest M2 version that is getting all the love.

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by nachob

For disclosure, I don't own an M2 but I appreciate several aspects of the M2. I was heavily considering it but by the time it came out, there were too many little things that I didn't like about the M2, that I gave up my slot and bought another car. However, one thing I liked about the M2 was that it sounded great on the outside. The exhaust sound was one of the better modern sounds I had heard. I have now heard several M2s and M2Cs including yesterday when I heard an M2C in full anger going up an on-ramp. It sounded terrible. So those of you with regular M2s, point for you! : )

Yes, you might not be as fast going up the ramp, but at least you are providing pleasant sounds to other car enthusiasts.

Final, thought on the same subject. I have yet to hear an "upgraded" M2 exhaust that sounds as good as the stock M2 exhaust so if you have the best in class outside sound, leave it alone!

Best wishes.

What part of Cali are you in? I'd love for you to hear my setup

[Flange]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Dont worry england will lead the way when they exit out of that failed union called Europe

And all these draco laws will be cast aside and fall like a pile of dried leaves

Ah, but we won’t actually *leave* the EU.
They’ll say we have, but Junker will still have his grubby, corrupt shit stained fingers on us.
The fucking stinking cockwomble.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by nachob

Exhaust sounds are just personal, like Coke, Mexican Coke or Pepsi, Diet Coke, etc. I am a big fan of MPE and have owned MPE exhausts in my E46. Loved it.

So for my taste buds, the stock exhaust is just right. The MPE sounds better at idle than stock but like stock exhaust more as revs go up. Just my taste. I have not conducted a brand survey but some sounds have some advantages at idle or revs but overall, the stock M2 exhaust is great to me.

Also, you cannot make gold out of tin so any exhaust on the original M2 will probably sound better to ME than anything in the M2C. The tone is just not pleasant to ME. Didn't mean to start an exhaust war.

I simply wanted to express my appreciation for the original M2 exhaust tone outside the car compared to the latest M2 version that is getting all the love.

Agree with you 100%.. Was just curious what you compared it to. I prefer the MPE myself, but may be a bit bias

Also agree with you on the M2C (at least from an OEM exhaust standpoint, I havent heard one in person with non-OEM)

[nachob]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Canada also has a pilot project of 'noise cameras' in Edmonton, but something went wrong at the start...

See here ("Vehicle noise monitors that encourage more noise ‘reason to discontinue pilot’: Edmonton mayor") and here ("Edmonton turns off 4 vehicle noise displays after complaints of stunting, intentional noise").

I wasn't just referring to the volume of exhausts, I mean the combination of tone and volume. I find the M2 pleasant, the M2C less.

The reason I expressed my appreciation for the external sound of the N55 M2 is that it was one of the better sounding (to Me) newer turbo cars out there. I probably shouldn't have mentioned the M2C and get upset people in retrospect, just that it's getting all the attention and wanted to express my appreciation for the originals sound.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Agree with you 100%.. Was just curious what you compared it to. I prefer the MPE myself, but may be a bit bias

Also agree with you on the M2C (at least from an OEM exhaust standpoint, I havent heard one in person with non-OEM)

MPE is good glad you like it. One aspect that I didn't address is that the MPE might be better for the driver if active sound is turned off. I was only referring to sound as a spectator. I am still horrified by active sound so I would see why as an owner that turned it off, a different exhaust that to replace Active Sound would be great. If I was an owner, I would turn it off and probably look to increase interior sound mechanically too. In that case the MPE is great because it increases the volume slightly without becoming obnoxious.

[Anthony1s]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Big Brother is hearing you (soon).

See for example:

• here ("Mercedes-AMG warns next-generation sports cars will be quieter - EU legislation is set to strangle once-proud soundtracks of performance manufacturers");
• here ("Mercedes-AMG exhausts will be quieter here because of EU regulations - Tightening restrictions mean fewer crackles and pops");
• here ("'Acoustic cameras' tested in bid to cut noisy vehicles");
• here ("They’re up and running in France. First ‘noise’ cameras from the cops trialing on real roads and just one catches hundreds on it’s first Sunday ‘live’. Uh oh…");
• here ("‘Noise cameras’ will know if your car's too loud");
• here ("Silence of the Lambos: Council want to end supercar roar on London streets by using sound cameras").

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Problem I see with that is all existing cars would be grandfathered in. Meaning it would take a very long time for those devices to be worth while.

[Dav3]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Amg worked extra hard on their 63s to make sure the bi turbo engine was acoustically pleasing as it was performing

Everyone knows the aural satisfaction is half the experience of a sports car!

Im not sure how you say you had mpe in your og and could barely hear it!? Did you ever open the flaps, sometimes im like damn maybe thats a lil overkill!

Yeah, AMG is doing it right. BMW just slaps some fake in-cabin noise.

From what I've read, consumer feedback reports continuously highlight cabin silence as an important factor. BMW took note of this and that's why now we have ASD.

I've opened the flaps. I even wrote a post on how-to bypass the 'track-mode' switch in the back. Weekend Warrior only? Maybe. Daily or Highway duty, fuck no.

[DanG]

I love my MPE and it definitely sounds better than stock. I do have ASD bypassed.

[Dav3]

Originally Posted by DanG

I love my MPE and it definitely sounds better than stock. I do have ASD bypassed.

Try driving on a highway at a fixed speed with all the windows closed and radio off

The drone gets nauseating

[omasou]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Big Brother is hearing you (soon).

See for example:

• here ("Mercedes-AMG warns next-generation sports cars will be quieter - EU legislation is set to strangle once-proud soundtracks of performance manufacturers");
• here ("Mercedes-AMG exhausts will be quieter here because of EU regulations - Tightening restrictions mean fewer crackles and pops");
• here ("'Acoustic cameras' tested in bid to cut noisy vehicles");
• here ("They're up and running in France. First 'noise' cameras from the cops trialing on real roads and just one catches hundreds on it's first Sunday 'live'. Uh oh…");
• here ("'Noise cameras' will know if your car's too loud");
• here ("Silence of the Lambos: Council want to end supercar roar on London streets by using sound cameras").

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Took a while but looks like 1984 finally arrived.