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      08-15-2019, 08:38 AM   #1101
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I swear, this moronic, drawn out release has completely tapered my enthusiasm for the CS. BMW sucks at this....

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The new Supra seems to out handle the M2c. Not surprised since the Supra is more of a sports car than the M2 which is based off the 2 series.

So how will the M2 CS handle against the new Supra? I honestly dont think it will be worth spending $20-30k more for an M2 CS. Competition is fierce now and M2 CS might not sell well? Thoughts?

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My brother-in-law tortured me with this clip many times lol he would play it over and over and over until someone in the family finally had enough and yelled at him to stop
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I am admittedly biased ��. I do have a few comments on the video though.

1) The Supra comes with bigger 255/35 and 275/35 tires. The M2C can also run this size.

2) The Supra is a 2 seater. If you don't care about the rear seats do a back seat delete on the M2C and reduce some weight.

3) The M2C was a 6MT. Everyone knows that the auto tranny in the Supra will be faster. The speed of an MT car is especially controlled by the driver. He may have not been good at shifting. They should have compared the Supra with a DCT M2C.

4) The drivers were not allowed to switch cars which means differences in driving skills can not be ruled out.

The cars were so close that the above stated factors could have changed the outcome of the review, IMHO.

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The new Supra seems to out handle the M2c. Not surprised since the Supra is more of a sports car than the M2 which is based off the 2 series.

So how will the M2 CS handle against the new Supra? I honestly dont think it will be worth spending $20-30k more for an M2 CS. Competition is fierce now and M2 CS might not sell well? Thoughts?
I bet BMW will sell every single CS they make, unless they price it at a ridiculous level. And even then, since it will be a limited edition run, I am sure they will sell all of them.

Reasons to me that the CS is compelling: M3 ZCP tune with BMW factory warranty intact, CF roof from the factory, 763M wheels as standard, interior bits that are unique (probably some red accents), red calipers as standard (according to rumor) and some weight loss (even if that amount isn't very much overall).

Now, those things are all great and make the CS distinct from the M2C. But at what price? For me, "how" compelling the car is will depend on where they slot it. Low 70's = Over 80, and where I think it will end up = and the M2C is more compelling at that point.
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I am admittedly biased ��. I do have a few comments on the video though.

1) The Supra comes with bigger 255/35 and 275/35 tires. The M2C can also run this size.

2) The Supra is a 2 seater. If you don't care about the rear seats do a back seat delete on the M2C and reduce some weight.

3) The M2C was a 6MT. Everyone knows that the auto tranny in the Supra will be faster. The speed of an MT car is especially controlled by the driver. He may have not been good at shifting. They should have compared the Supra with a DCT M2C.

4) The drivers were not allowed to switch cars which means differences in driving skills can not be ruled out.

The cars were so close that the above stated factors could have changed the outcome of the review, IMHO.
also, for #1, sounds like the M2C tires were basically done with 10 days on them...I mean, tires are probably the most critical component of lap times haha

also #4 is absolutely true - this was not a good test (or even valid)
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