Clutch pedal redesign or wrong part

skiparock · 06-06-2018, 01:40 PM

I have an 18 LCI, picked up in Nov 2017 via ED. The clutch pedal had a slight click when engaging, towards the top of the arm, as if plastic was hitting plastic about 1 inch into pressing the pedal.

Today, the dealership replaced the clutch pedal (35-31-6-761-310) as well as bushings (35-31-6-797-357), and compression (35-00-6-769-442).

The tech said the two pedals looked different around the top of the arm/assembly and the tolerances on the new pedal were much tighter.

Therefore, either BMW put the wrong pedal in from the factory (say from a 1 or 2 series that may have different specs?) or they did a recent update to the part.

If you also have a click sound coming from the assembly area (reach hand up and you'll feel a spring, so around there) you may have the wrong pedal or it needs to be 'refreshed' by the new part.

And yes, this is worthless without a picture, so very sorry.

M Fifty · 06-06-2018, 03:40 PM

Good News: That part number is used on all of the following...

35316761310
CLUTCH PEDAL
From:05/31/2004
Part 35316761310 was found on the following vehicles:
1' E81 (02/2006 — 12/2011)
1' E87 (02/2003 — 02/2007)
1' E87 LCI (01/2006 — 06/2011)
1' E88 (11/2006 — 10/2013)
1' E82 (11/2006 — 10/2013)
1' F20 (07/2010 — 02/2015)
1' F20 LCI (05/2014 — 02/2018)
1' F21 (07/2010 — 02/2015)
1' F21 LCI (05/2014 — 02/2018)
2' F22 (10/2012 — 06/2017)
2' F22 LCI (09/2016 — 02/2018)
2' F87 M2 (11/2014 — 06/2017)
2' F87 M2 LCI (09/2016 — 02/2018)
2' F23 (03/2014 — 06/2017)
2' F23 LCI (09/2016 — 02/2018)
3' E90 (02/2004 — 09/2008)
3' E90 LCI (07/2007 — 02/2012)
3' E91 (02/2004 — 08/2008)
3' E91 LCI (07/2007 — 05/2012)
3' E92 (05/2005 — 02/2010)
3' E92 LCI (11/2008 — 06/2013)
3' E93 (09/2005 — 02/2010)
3' E93 LCI (11/2008 — 10/2013)
3' F30 (03/2011 — 01/2016)
3' F30 LCI (09/2014 — 03/2018)
3' F80 M3 (04/2012 — 06/2015)
3' F80 M3 LCI (01/2015 — 02/2018)
3' F31 (07/2011 — 07/2015)
3' F31 LCI (09/2014 — 02/2018)
3' F34 GT (07/2012 — 06/2016)
3' F34 GT LCI (09/2015 — 02/2018)
3' F35 (06/2011 — 08/2015)
3' F35 LCI (01/2015 — 08/2016)
4' F32 (11/2012 — 02/2017)
4' F32 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018)
4' F82 M4 (02/2013 — 02/2017)
4' F82 M4 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018)
4' F33 (03/2013 — 02/2017)
4' F33 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018)
4' F83 M4 (06/2013 — 02/2017)
4' F83 M4 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018)
4' F36 Gran Coupé (07/2013 — 03/2017)
4' F36 Gran Coupé LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018)
X1 E84 (09/2008 — 12/2015)

TT1351 · 06-08-2018, 04:36 AM

Referencing the above application chart it seems unlikely that the possibility of a wrong clutch pedal being installed would ever happen. Maybe the car was built on April 1st and a clutch pedal from a 2002 was installed as a joke, if anything you may have had a defective pedal installed, but again i can't imagine where the flaw would be. Never had a problem with mine, but did install the UCP only because it seemed like a nice upgrade.

skiparock · 06-08-2018, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TT1351

Referencing the above application chart it seems unlikely that the possibility of a wrong clutch pedal being installed would ever happen. Maybe the car was built on April 1st and a clutch pedal from a 2002 was installed as a joke, if anything you may have had a defective pedal installed, but again i can't imagine where the flaw would be. Never had a problem with mine, but did install the UCP only because it seemed like a nice upgrade.

Agree, seems unlikely that it's the wrong pedal as it appears it's the only pedal that exists. So, maybe a one-off defect as no one on any forum complained of this clicking

sclui56 · 04-04-2019, 01:52 PM

Well, I started having the "click" issue on my 18 recently, it is rather intermittent, I would say around 5% of the time at best. This only happens on the down stroke at the very top of the engagement but the clutch does not feel wrong mechanically. It feels like a "click" as if the spring twisted ever so slightly from the anchor during compression/decompression. I felt the spring from underneath and it does have some lateral movement but that is to be expected, and the c-clip felt like it is in place.

Service advisor asked to have it in so that the tech could take a listen, the problem is that this "click" cannot be reproduced at will, and I almost feel like it is a waste of time at the moment.

Guess I will wait for it to get worse.

skiparock · 04-04-2019, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sclui56

Well, I started having the "click" issue on my 18 recently, it is rather intermittent, I would say around 5% of the time at best. This only happens on the down stroke at the very top of the engagement but the clutch does not feel wrong mechanically. It feels like a "click" as if the spring twisted ever so slightly from the anchor during compression/decompression. I felt the spring from underneath and it does have some lateral movement but that is to be expected, and the c-clip felt like it is in place.

Service advisor asked to have it in so that the tech could take a listen, the problem is that this "click" cannot be reproduced at will, and I almost feel like it is a waste of time at the moment.

Guess I will wait for it to get worse.

Can you replicate the click if you press down off center, even slightly either to left or right? For me it seemed to always happen if you didn't press down with perfect center pressure

ScreamingChicken · 04-04-2019, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sclui56

Well, I started having the "click" issue on my 18 recently, it is rather intermittent, I would say around 5% of the time at best. This only happens on the down stroke at the very top of the engagement but the clutch does not feel wrong mechanically. It feels like a "click" as if the spring twisted ever so slightly from the anchor during compression/decompression. I felt the spring from underneath and it does have some lateral movement but that is to be expected, and the c-clip felt like it is in place.

Service advisor asked to have it in so that the tech could take a listen, the problem is that this "click" cannot be reproduced at will, and I almost feel like it is a waste of time at the moment.

Guess I will wait for it to get worse.

I had the intermittent click at the top for the first few months of ownership. I told them about it when I went in for 1200 mile service. They said they did something but it continued to happen for a couple more months. It slowly went away and I probably haven't heard it in 8 months now.

sclui56 · 04-04-2019, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiparock

Can you replicate the click if you press down off center, even slightly either to left or right? For me it seemed to always happen if you didn't press down with perfect center pressure

That was one of the first things I tried to discern if that may be the case, but unfortunately, off-center depression did not always produce the "click". Thanks.

sclui56 · 04-04-2019, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreamingChicken

I had the intermittent click at the top for the first few months of ownership. I told them about it when I went in for 1200 mile service. They said they did something but it continued to happen for a couple more months. It slowly went away and I probably haven't heard it in 8 months now.

OK, maybe more time will cause it to wear-in and eliminate the click, it is so far only an annoyance, but it is nevertheless disruptive. I simply don't want to waste a trip to be told "customer states.....", and "cannot replicate at this time....".

detroitm2 · 04-04-2019, 04:48 PM

Have the same issue on my 18. Thought it might be the MP pedals.. It never bothered me enough to take it in.

pnwzhp · 08-03-2019, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiparock

I have an 18 LCI, picked up in Nov 2017 via ED. The clutch pedal had a slight click when engaging, towards the top of the arm, as if plastic was hitting plastic about 1 inch into pressing the pedal.

Today, the dealership replaced the clutch pedal (35-31-6-761-310) as well as bushings (35-31-6-797-357), and compression (35-00-6-769-442).

The tech said the two pedals looked different around the top of the arm/assembly and the tolerances on the new pedal were much tighter.

Therefore, either BMW put the wrong pedal in from the factory (say from a 1 or 2 series that may have different specs?) or they did a recent update to the part.

If you also have a click sound coming from the assembly area (reach hand up and you'll feel a spring, so around there) you may have the wrong pedal or it needs to be 'refreshed' by the new part.

And yes, this is worthless without a picture, so very sorry.

I realize this is an older thread, and it's on the M2 forum, but I am experiencing a similar problem on my 2109 F32. I would like to share and see if anyone else is/has had the same issue and what was the resolution.

The car is a 440i Coupe, manual transmission, M Performance Power and Sound Kit. Build was in November 2018. I took delivery in Jan 2019; the car has 5200 miles. In the past month I have noticed a click when depressing the clutch pedal at the very top of its travel. The click can be both felt and heard. Clutch function seems unaffected. I have had the car to my dealer where they found play at the connection of the clutch master cylinder to clutch pedal. They have ordered a new clutch pedal and bushing.

As of now, I am waiting for the dealer to advise of part availability and schedule for the r&r. When done, I will update the thread with results.

Nezil · 08-03-2019, 03:01 PM

I too have this intermittently... I have mods and try to reverse them when I go to a dealer, which is a total pain, so haven't had it looked at. I might ask at the next (2 year) service.

pnwzhp · 08-15-2019, 09:24 AM

Update to my post of 03 Aug.

Clutch pedal was replaced on my 2019 440i coupe at 5600 miles. Actual part numbers installed:

35-31-6-761-310 clutch pedal
35-31-6-797-357 bushing, 2 ea
35-31-6-854-283 pin, master cylinder, 1 ea

Interesting - and of concern - the part numbers installed by my dealer seem to have been replaced by newer part numbers according to realoem.com. The replaced by part numbers are:

35-00-6-878-300 clutch pedal
35-00-6-878-303 bushing, 2 ea
35-00-6-878-304 pin, master cylinder 1 ea

The new clutch pedal now works as expected with no clicking noise or feel at the top of its travel. My hope is it will remain this way as it wears in.

Side note: my dealer's mechanic scratched the hell out of the stainless steel dead pedal while doing the clutch pedal replacement. Not a big deal at the end of the day, but neither is it the kind of workmanship I am willing to accept. Back to the dealer!

06-06-2018, 01:40 PM	#1
skiparock Second Lieutenant 183 Rep 229 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 lbb manual Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Austin iTrader: (0)	Clutch pedal redesign or wrong part I have an 18 LCI, picked up in Nov 2017 via ED. The clutch pedal had a slight click when engaging, towards the top of the arm, as if plastic was hitting plastic about 1 inch into pressing the pedal. Today, the dealership replaced the clutch pedal (35-31-6-761-310) as well as bushings (35-31-6-797-357), and compression (35-00-6-769-442). The tech said the two pedals looked different around the top of the arm/assembly and the tolerances on the new pedal were much tighter. Therefore, either BMW put the wrong pedal in from the factory (say from a 1 or 2 series that may have different specs?) or they did a recent update to the part. If you also have a click sound coming from the assembly area (reach hand up and you'll feel a spring, so around there) you may have the wrong pedal or it needs to be 'refreshed' by the new part. And yes, this is worthless without a picture, so very sorry. __________________ 18 M2 lbb manual exec (Euro Delivery) and PDC 11 e92 335i xdrive BSM/PE (Sold) 09 335i xdrive Monaco Blue (Traded) 02 330xi (Sold)
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M Fifty Banned 844 Rep 1,962 Posts Drives: M2 & 330CI Join Date: May 2018 Location: The Interweb iTrader: (0)	Good News: That part number is used on all of the following... 35316761310 CLUTCH PEDAL From:05/31/2004 Part 35316761310 was found on the following vehicles: 1' E81 (02/2006 — 12/2011) 1' E87 (02/2003 — 02/2007) 1' E87 LCI (01/2006 — 06/2011) 1' E88 (11/2006 — 10/2013) 1' E82 (11/2006 — 10/2013) 1' F20 (07/2010 — 02/2015) 1' F20 LCI (05/2014 — 02/2018) 1' F21 (07/2010 — 02/2015) 1' F21 LCI (05/2014 — 02/2018) 2' F22 (10/2012 — 06/2017) 2' F22 LCI (09/2016 — 02/2018) 2' F87 M2 (11/2014 — 06/2017) 2' F87 M2 LCI (09/2016 — 02/2018) 2' F23 (03/2014 — 06/2017) 2' F23 LCI (09/2016 — 02/2018) 3' E90 (02/2004 — 09/2008) 3' E90 LCI (07/2007 — 02/2012) 3' E91 (02/2004 — 08/2008) 3' E91 LCI (07/2007 — 05/2012) 3' E92 (05/2005 — 02/2010) 3' E92 LCI (11/2008 — 06/2013) 3' E93 (09/2005 — 02/2010) 3' E93 LCI (11/2008 — 10/2013) 3' F30 (03/2011 — 01/2016) 3' F30 LCI (09/2014 — 03/2018) 3' F80 M3 (04/2012 — 06/2015) 3' F80 M3 LCI (01/2015 — 02/2018) 3' F31 (07/2011 — 07/2015) 3' F31 LCI (09/2014 — 02/2018) 3' F34 GT (07/2012 — 06/2016) 3' F34 GT LCI (09/2015 — 02/2018) 3' F35 (06/2011 — 08/2015) 3' F35 LCI (01/2015 — 08/2016) 4' F32 (11/2012 — 02/2017) 4' F32 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018) 4' F82 M4 (02/2013 — 02/2017) 4' F82 M4 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018) 4' F33 (03/2013 — 02/2017) 4' F33 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018) 4' F83 M4 (06/2013 — 02/2017) 4' F83 M4 LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018) 4' F36 Gran Coupé (07/2013 — 03/2017) 4' F36 Gran Coupé LCI (05/2016 — 02/2018) X1 E84 (09/2008 — 12/2015)
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06-08-2018, 04:36 AM	#3
TT1351 Captain 508 Rep 929 Posts Drives: 135, GTS, E30 M3+ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Massachusetts iTrader: (2)	Referencing the above application chart it seems unlikely that the possibility of a wrong clutch pedal being installed would ever happen. Maybe the car was built on April 1st and a clutch pedal from a 2002 was installed as a joke, if anything you may have had a defective pedal installed, but again i can't imagine where the flaw would be. Never had a problem with mine, but did install the UCP only because it seemed like a nice upgrade.
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sclui56 Private First Class 98 Rep 144 Posts Drives: E86, IS-F, G42, G87 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Well, I started having the "click" issue on my 18 recently, it is rather intermittent, I would say around 5% of the time at best. This only happens on the down stroke at the very top of the engagement but the clutch does not feel wrong mechanically. It feels like a "click" as if the spring twisted ever so slightly from the anchor during compression/decompression. I felt the spring from underneath and it does have some lateral movement but that is to be expected, and the c-clip felt like it is in place. Service advisor asked to have it in so that the tech could take a listen, the problem is that this "click" cannot be reproduced at will, and I almost feel like it is a waste of time at the moment. Guess I will wait for it to get worse.
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detroitm2 Colonel 2428 Rep 2,526 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Michigan iTrader: (2) Garage List 2018 BMW M2 [0.00]	Have the same issue on my 18. Thought it might be the MP pedals.. It never bothered me enough to take it in. __________________ 2018 M2 - Daily Driver/Track Car Motorcity BMWCCA Member Instagram \| YouTube
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08-03-2019, 03:01 PM	#12
Nezil Major 1403 Rep 1,466 Posts Drives: LCI '18 6MT M2 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: San Francisco Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I too have this intermittently... I have mods and try to reverse them when I go to a dealer, which is a total pain, so haven't had it looked at. I might ask at the next (2 year) service. __________________ 2018 ///M2 LCI, LBB, 6MT... Current Performance Mods: CSF FMIC, ER CP, Fabspeed Cat, Aquamist WMI, GFB DV+, NGK 97506, BM3 (Stage 2 93 OTS), CDV delete, UCP, M2C/M3/M4 Strut Brace, M3/M4 Reinforcement Rings
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08-15-2019, 09:24 AM	#13
pnwzhp New Member 2 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 2019 440i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Washington State iTrader: (0)	Clutch pedal redesign or wrong part Update to my post of 03 Aug. Clutch pedal was replaced on my 2019 440i coupe at 5600 miles. Actual part numbers installed: 35-31-6-761-310 clutch pedal 35-31-6-797-357 bushing, 2 ea 35-31-6-854-283 pin, master cylinder, 1 ea Interesting - and of concern - the part numbers installed by my dealer seem to have been replaced by newer part numbers according to realoem.com. The replaced by part numbers are: 35-00-6-878-300 clutch pedal 35-00-6-878-303 bushing, 2 ea 35-00-6-878-304 pin, master cylinder 1 ea The new clutch pedal now works as expected with no clicking noise or feel at the top of its travel. My hope is it will remain this way as it wears in. Side note: my dealer's mechanic scratched the hell out of the stainless steel dead pedal while doing the clutch pedal replacement. Not a big deal at the end of the day, but neither is it the kind of workmanship I am willing to accept. Back to the dealer!
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