[Edo135]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

Mind posting a few pictures of your tail lights in this thread?

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8#post25111178

Curious how the new blacklines look on the MY20 models and I have yet to see a good quality photo.

Originally Posted by andrewc89

Mind posting a few pictures of your tail lights in this thread?

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8#post25111178

Curious how the new blacklines look on the MY20 models and I have yet to see a good quality photo.

I have these two. The Hs is a my19 which I test drove before buying my bsm which is a my2020. Hope they helps.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

Mind posting a few pictures of your tail lights in this thread?

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8#post25111178

Curious how the new blacklines look on the MY20 models and I have yet to see a good quality photo.

I don't think it's worth it to 'upgrade' and I'm a 100% satisfied with the non-darken version but different strokes...

Here's the part numbers for the MY2020 darken version, Incase you're interested.

ECE Version;

63 21 9 491 591 Left
63 21 9 491 592 Right

US Version;

63 21 9 491 593 Left
63 21 9 491 594 Right

[buckybadger]

Guys let's stick to the original topic.

Btw I am not a fan of the updated rear lights. Hardly noticeable though.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Guys let's stick to the original topic.

Btw I am not a fan of the updated rear lights. Hardly noticeable though.

There is little can be done to add any more of a tactile feedback to a Electric Power Steering.

Threads like this pop up every other month, in different variation of complaints regarding this "issue" but they're all the same.

I don't believe anything is wrong with your steering, as the slack built into ESP is the nature of the beast and is more of a feature than a flaw, IMO.

At least its very responsive, eliminates bump-steer and road imperfections, amongst other things.

Can anything be done about the steering on the M240i? https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1624490

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Guys let's stick to the original topic.

I coded in the M4 GTS EPS on my car and it really tightened the steering up. Worth a try:

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...43&postcount=8

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

I also feel some vibrations on normal smooth road. I think my wheels are out of balance or misaligned. There's also a slight pull to the left.

I did notice that one of the other wheel has a missing weight. Not sure how this might have happened.

Wow, do you know what wheel weights are for?

They are to balance out the unique imbalance of each tyre. Therefore no two wheels / tyres will be the same.

The position of and number / weight of weights to be fitted are individual. It would be highly UNLIKELY to have the same weights in the same place on two wheels.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by doughboy

Wow, do you know what wheel weights are for?

They are to balance out the unique imbalance of each tyre. Therefore no two wheels / tyres will be the same.

The position of and number / weight of weights to be fitted are individual. It would be highly UNLIKELY to have the same weights in the same place on two wheels.

Yes I already know this!

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by EdoM2

OP I have the same play in the center as you, either in comfort, sport or sport plus setting. Also, you're weights are correct, I have 2 on the left wheel and 1 on the right one. Is yours a my2020 like mine? If so could it be the latest steering software calibration that's causing that? I'm telling you this because I read somewhere on the forum that with this last software update the steering feedback got worse.
Anyway i think I'll take her to my dealer for a check.

This looks like the thread you mentioned:
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1595777

I need to bring this up with my service.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

This looks like the thread you mentioned:
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1595777

I need to bring this up with my service.

The OP of that thread specifically said that the EPS module wasn't updated and the 'change' was just a placebo effect.

But if that helps you sleep better at night, go for it

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

This looks like the thread you mentioned:
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1595777

I need to bring this up with my service.

You guys do realize that wheel weights are not something that can be compared from car to car or from wheel to wheel.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by Poochie

The OP of that thread specifically said that the EPS module wasn't updated and the 'change' was just a placebo effect.

But if that helps you sleep better at night, go for it

Ok but steering still got impacted though, correct?

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

You guys do realize that wheel weights are not something that can be compared from car to car or from wheel to wheel.

Yes, I am aware of this as well. I just got my 335i balanced a couple of weeks back and it made a world of a difference. The wobbly ride has translated into smooth drive now.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Ok but steering still got impacted though, correct?

No, the software wasn't changed, notice in the ISTA snapshot it says "encoding" instead of "programming" there is a huge difference between the two; that means the software wasn't change, the adaptions were just reset.

You can try the dealer and see if they update your ECU but just keep in mind it won't change much, since there isn't an update for the EPS available.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by Poochie

No, the software wasn't changed, notice in the ISTA snapshot it says "encoding" instead of "programming" there is a huge difference between the two; that means the software wasn't change, the adaptions were just reset.

You can try the dealer and see if they update your ECU but just keep in mind it won't change much, since there isn't an update for the EPS available.

Thanks! I have scheduled with my service next week on Tuesday. I will update once I get more insight.

[buckybadger]

Service found no issue in the steering play. Everything checked out fine, including suspension components.

My alignment might be off or just bad tires, or maybe it's a character of the car?

They compared another new M2C and it had the slight play as well.

[VIERsr]

It's a characteristic of the car then, you have to get used to.
You should improve a little with alignment.

[Muncher]

To the OP,
I suspect its hard to know whether what you have is typical or not. I have an F48 and M2C. Compared to say a Golf7 or FM Mustang GT my previous cars with EPS, BMW isn't there yet wrt on-centre feel and moving just either side of centre. In high effort modes you can sometimes get a slightly artificial amount of assistance for a fraction of a second. The F48 is not a great car to steer in a straight line for eg. despite numerous wheel alignments to improve straight line tracking - it feels like its got free play - but has zero. Its the EPS.

Re M2C. I know what I will state here is basic, but maybe helpful. If the car is turned off, steering unlocked and you wiggle wheel from outside of car and note front wheels moving, no play, then its not a rack/steering arm mechanical issue, its the EPS system. I sometimes find it best to drive the car in comfort mode on the freeway. It seems to me to have better on centre accuracy (not feel)- I haven't gotten t the bottom of it yet. If I am in the curves, I switch to Sport steering.

I had an E90 330i (hydraulic steering I know) one that developed a lot of steering play. Turned out to be the rubber universal joint in the steering shaft under the dash - totally flogged out. The car had done only 60,000 klms. Cause - several thousand klms on a slightly out of round wheel.

Cheers

[buckybadger]

I ended up getting an alignment and the play seems to have improved. Steering is much better but I am yet to test the alignment on the freeway.

The interesting thing is that I never hit a pot hole but somehow the alignment got messed up.

Are M car cars that susceptible to alignment changes? I did drive on some bad roads but none of those should mess up the alignment. I drove my 335i on the same roads many times without any issues.

Here's a before vs. after spec.