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Either way fwd cars in my life are limited to daily drivers / family hauler / grocery getter, etc. I've actually rented a CTR on Turo before buying my LCI M2. If the road is anything but perfect, you can't put the power down at all. It's just too much power going to front wheels with limited traction on acceleration. Hops and skips everywhere, even with the LSD |
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So a honda that is stripped, likely caged and semi slicked w more power than production will not go faster than fully loaded full m3. LOL.. If that is not cheating then steroids are allowed in the olympics. |
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FWD vs. RWD is what I was getting at. No way in the world would I drive a high-strung FWD car, especially for fun. FWIW, I've had FWD cars with ~300whp... not fun.
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05-15-2019, 03:44 PM | #27 | |
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The CTR does a great job of putting the power down and with better rubber comes the ability to manage that power more effectively, permitting you plan on surpassing factory power levels. Personally, I'm impressed that a FWD Civic is under a second slower than an M2C - I think that's quite respectable.
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05-15-2019, 04:23 PM | #29 |
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To be honest, this and all the other F8x laptimes show how poorly done the rear suspension / grip is in these cars. You shouldn't be able to get this close with a FWD car that has significantly less power.
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05-15-2019, 04:32 PM | #30 | |
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WRONG. Look at the track. The guy in the video even said 1 second is a lot on this track, especially being that the CTR has an advantage on a tight short track like this. Take it to a decently fast track and CTR will fall behind very quickly. |
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05-15-2019, 04:49 PM | #31 |
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Hmmm wait, Honda vs BMW ???
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You are all missing a big thing here, the Type R is roughly 500 lbs lighter. 300HP on a car that’s 3100lbs will make any car fun as hell.
I have had 3 F80s/82 since they came out, e92 M3, E46 M3 and F87, a 991.2 Carrera, 718 cayman S, Mustang GT, and now the Type R, and if you can get past the “Honda” stereotypes, and get over your own ego, the Type R is the most satisfying car I have had this far. |
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I'm not sure why you guys are hating the Honda Civic Type R so much. It's $36k USD new (30k less than an M2C) and probably way more economical and reliable to track(tires/brakes/maintenance) then a BMW.
Give it some respect for what it is. I saw the car in person and looking at the spartan interior and build approach it's clear that honda made this car a no frills track day special. This is what BMW used to do with the M series when M used to mean something. I mean you don't see Honda making a pilot or odyssey Type R do you? |
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I personally like the Type R, I wouldn’t mind owning one. I’m not a bmw fanboy (not loyal to the brand) so im not embarrassed to say I like the Type R. I used to have an Integra GSR in high school and I loved that car.
The only thing I don’t like about my M2 it’s heavy. Wish it was 300 lbs lighter. Last edited by chmura; 05-15-2019 at 06:00 PM.. |
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I don't think putting these 2 cars against one another is farfetched. In my close group of friend, 2 of us have the M2 and 3 others have the type R, and we're all over 40yrs old.
I agree they are very different cars but some how it just turned out that way - Probably because they are 2 of the most fun cars to drive and best in their class... however, small that class is.
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They really need to stop advertising the 36k price, you literally can't buy it for that due to dealer markup, and you can't order it directly from Honda thus 40k is what the price is. |
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Everyone saying Honda "cheated" and the car was "Stripped" are being a little ignorant. Honda only took out enough weight to offset the weight added with the full cage which was a safety requirement. Putting it at production weight. If I had to choose between the CRT or M2, I'd probably change my mind 10 times in a week for various reasons. Stop being fanbois and be car enthusiasts. Peace.
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All the CTRs I’ve seen at the track are not in the same speed category with the Camaro SS, GT350, Vette, or the M3. And being FWD, it holds no interest for me. I could easily get past the bizarre design, I understand and appreciate the mechanical excellence underneath, kudos especially for keeping the manual transmission alive. But the FWD formula is not fun enough for me personally.
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