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      01-15-2017, 12:36 PM   #1
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M2 vs 17 STI

I'm currently on a waiting list for M2 and I'm 99% set on holding onto my spot until I get my order placed, but I can't look away from 17 STI which I like the exterior design better than M2. Obviously, I can't buy both cars given my financial situation. What are you guys honest opinions on those two cars?
I don't have a family or anything and just hopped into being a young professional for a note.
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      01-15-2017, 12:38 PM   #2
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But then again, M has been my dream car, so I'm torn between those two now...
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Depends what you want to pay and how long you want to wait.

STI is cheaper and more readily available and slower.

M2 is more expensive and more rare and faster.

If you like the look of the STI more than the M2, then it comes down to how much fun you get in either car.
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Also look at the price and the value you are getting. Given the M2 cost more is it worth the extra money for that value over a 17 STI? I believe it's there. This is something to consider as cars in general depreciate but the M2 probably holds value better long-term as it's a rare car. One thing to note is the M2 currently is fairly priced at mid 50s which is a good deal for people buying at MSRP.
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I had an STi ('11) before I traded in on my M235i, but I have driven the M2. The '17 Sti has a nicer interior than mine did. if you did a Stage 1 tune with the Cobb Accessport on the STI, it will be faster than the M2, for about 1K. Subies are super reliable, with a Stage 1 tune.
I see you are in FLA, so you might not need the AWD, I did living in the Toronto area.
The M2 will be smoother and more refined than the STi. I had Subies for about 11 years, but have been impressed with BMW's refinement and handling. I think the M2 will hold it's value more because it is rarer.
Maybe get the M2 and then an older STi sometime. The older STi's are just as fast. Have had the same engine since about '10. Good luck man !
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I had an STi ('11) before I traded in on my M235i, but I have driven the M2. The '17 Sti has a nicer interior than mine did. if you did a Stage 1 tune with the Cobb Accessport on the STI, it will be faster than the M2, for about 1K.
I've seen a couple dyno graphs of '16 and '17 STI on Cobb Accessport which also included downpipes. They put down 296WHP/360TQ and 300WHP/330TQ. A bone stock M2 puts down ~330/360. Sure, the STI will be quicker off the line but the M2 is an overall faster car. M2 traps 113 mph, STI traps 105. A stage 1 tune won't make it gain 8 mph through the traps.
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Depends what you want to pay and how long you want to wait.

STI is cheaper and more readily available and slower.

M2 is more expensive and more rare and faster.

If you like the look of the STI more than the M2, then it comes down to how much fun you get in either car.
I know M2 will be rarer since it is more expensive car and I do like exclusive aspect of driving a rarer car. The problem is that dealers are not letting me test drive STI for some reason. I don't expect to test drive M2 at all though since the car is flying off the lot at least in my area.
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Also look at the price and the value you are getting. Given the M2 cost more is it worth the extra money for that value over a 17 STI? I believe it's there. This is something to consider as cars in general depreciate but the M2 probably holds value better long-term as it's a rare car. One thing to note is the M2 currently is fairly priced at mid 50s which is a good deal for people buying at MSRP.
It is a good deal at MSRP, but still it would have been nice we could get M2 below MSRP haha.
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If you're getting the STI wait for the 2018 as it has 6 piston Brembos and thicker glass.
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It is a good deal at MSRP, but still it would have been nice we could get M2 below MSRP haha.
lol I mean at MSRP is fair enough given the profit margin for them isn't even much at all. With some dealerships charging over MSRP I feel MSRP is the best offer. You can't not be satisfied buying this at MSRP. I don't think anyone who bought an M2 feels they overpaid....or at least I hope no one has...
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IMO, Sti platform is just too old, way less efficient than N55. Not worth investment unless buy used. Can see you do have emotional attachment to it. Do it then but you'll be regretting not taking a m2 9/10.
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The EJ is literally a 20 year old engine with serious reliability issues, partially due to the factory tune in view of modern emission standards.

Subaru should have upgraded it a long, long time ago.

With things like the Golf R and RS out there, I'm not sure why anyone would buy an STI with that lump in it.

That being said, I wouldn't bet against the STI in resale value. Both WRXs and STIs have CRAZY resale value. I would think it would be hard for the M2 to match it...as I don't think this car becomes the 1M...but we'll see.
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if you did a Stage 1 tune with the Cobb Accessport on the STI, it will be faster than the M2, for about 1K.
No. Not even close.

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Subies are super reliable
No. The EJ257 fails at an incredibly alarming rate. Subaru acknowledges the rod bearing and piston issues with the motor. They stock shortblocks all over the country for a reason.

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Have had the same engine since about '10.
No. While the turbo was changed, it's had the same engine since its introduction as a 2004.

That post was all kinds of wrong.
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I'm currently on a waiting list for M2 and I'm 99% set on holding onto my spot until I get my order placed, but I can't look away from 17 STI which I like the exterior design better than M2. Obviously, I can't buy both cars given my financial situation. What are you guys honest opinions on those two cars?
I don't have a family or anything and just hopped into being a young professional for a note.
Check through CosmosMpower posts. He had a 2016 STi while waiting on his M2.

I'm betting he might recommend the Ford Focus RS over the STi actually ..
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I had a hawkeye WRX with the EJ, engine was not the fastest thing on the street but it was fun and with a turbo back exhaust it had a lot of character. If it was RWD I would have kept it. Between the two in the OP, I'd go M2.
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That STI rear is so ugly...those taillights look so dated...

Check out the TT RS or wait for the M2 really...
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I'd rather go with a new base WRX and skip the STI. Not as fast obviously but the engine/turbo is a newer/better platform. Unless you can score a good deal on a used STI. For STI money I'd go focus RS..
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OP your profile indicates you live in Florida. Why would you want AWD? Also STI and M2 are not even close when it comes to the engine and quality marks. I like the STI, but it's drastically different than the M2.
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If you're getting the STI wait for the 2018 as it has 6 piston Brembos and thicker glass.
Thicker glass means less noise I guess? I don't know how loud the car is now though
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The EJ is literally a 20 year old engine with serious reliability issues, partially due to the factory tune in view of modern emission standards.

Subaru should have upgraded it a long, long time ago.

With things like the Golf R and RS out there, I'm not sure why anyone would buy an STI with that lump in it.

That being said, I wouldn't bet against the STI in resale value. Both WRXs and STIs have CRAZY resale value. I would think it would be hard for the M2 to match it...as I don't think this car becomes the 1M...but we'll see.
So N55 being old too in BMW engine line up is still better than the one in STI I guess? What about WRX base engine then???
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