[cpxchewy]

Pros:
1. MDM mode is so good. I almost spun out because I couldn't control an oversteer in the rain on the ring but the car recognized I fucked up and immediately stopped me from spinning out.
2. The steering feedback is the best I've driven and this EPS matches (if is not better than) my 2008 Miata with Hydraulic steering.

Cons:
1. Exhaust is pretty quiet in all modes. Might consider getting a midpipe.
2. turning radius is huuuuuuge. My 320i has a smaller turning radius and my old 228i has an even smaller turning radius. I'm definitely struggling sometimes with backing into parking lots

[Davil]

Pros:
1. Perfectly balanced all rounder. The right amount of power, amazing handling, magic steering, good ride comfort in a perfectly sized and specced package. You wouldn’t change a thing.
2. No image problems. Very stylish and (just) quiet enough to prevent any accusation of a mid life crisis.

Cons
1. Takes much longer to park looking for the perfect spot to prevent some hitman/woman from dinging the panels.
2. Danger of walking into people or objects as you are compelled to look back every time you park the car.

[M2Cnme]

Originally Posted by Davil

Pros:
1. Perfectly balanced all rounder. The right amount of power, amazing handling, magic steering, good ride comfort in a perfectly sized and specced package. You wouldn’t change a thing.
2. No image problems. Very stylish and (just) quiet enough to prevent any accusation of a mid life crisis.

Cons
1. Takes much longer to park looking for the perfect spot to prevent some hitman/woman from dinging the panels.
2. Danger of walking into people or objects as you are compelled to look back every time you park the car.

What about an old fart like me? Old life crisis. Guilty as charged!!

[warrenw]

Pro:
1. Torque is crazy
2. It's small, so it's easy to navigate small streets

Con:
1. Interior quality is meh
2. Smallest gas tank ever. Always filling up.

[tokki]

Pros:
The small size makes driving feel more connected.
The sound is actually not too bad. Could be louder or atleast have manual control of the valves.
The powertrain suits the car nicely.

Cons:
The awful wheel hop.
The 1-2 shift can be quite jerky unless you slip it slightly.
The look of the rear end is quite plain and does not give off the same aggressive vibe as the front.

[natmad]

Well... as I continue to wait, my patience grows weary.

Pro: I now have a VIN, production has started.

Con: I don’t have it yet.

Third thread update...

Top Pro: Power leads the pack.

Top Con: Range is going all the way, to the next gas station.

This probably explains why there’s a thread in the Photos section called “M2’s Getting Gas Pictures”.

[Davil]

Originally Posted by tokki

Cons:
The awful wheel hop.

Have you modified your suspension in some way?

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by tokki

Pros:

Cons:
The awful wheel hop.

What tyres do you have and what pressure.

I was at a track/driftday a month ago with the stock 788s/PSS and no wheelhop at all. Never.

With my ex 1M (PS2) I had wheelhop sometimes.

Cheers
Robin

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin

2 Pros:
- Best new ///M since the E46 M3
- So much fun

2 Cons:
- Exhaust sounds (Burbles, farts and way too quiet)
- No HUD

How can it be the best new M car since the E46 M3 if it weighs more than an M4 lol?

You cant fit 285's up front like on the F80/82.

[Chopper731]

Originally Posted by anglo

How can it be the best new M car since the E46 M3 if it weighs more than an M4 lol?

You cant fit 285's up front like on the F80/82.

Cool guy alert.

[natmad]

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin View Post
2 Pros:
- Best new ///M since the E46 M3
- So much fun

2 Cons:
- Exhaust sounds (Burbles, farts and way too quiet)
- No HUD

Originally Posted by anglo

How can it be the best new M car since the E46 M3 if it weighs more than an M4 lol?

I suspect because of his second Pro above... “So much fun”.

Of course weight is but one component of a fun car.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by natmad

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin View Post
2 Pros:
- Best new ///M since the E46 M3
- So much fun

2 Cons:
- Exhaust sounds (Burbles, farts and way too quiet)
- No HUD



I suspect because of his second Pro above... “So much fun”.

Of course weight is but one component of a fun car.

I suspect you're not familiar with the S65 engine!

Weight plays a huge role in a proper sports car. The Miata ND is a good example!

[Commanderwiggin]

Originally Posted by anglo

How can it be the best new M car since the E46 M3 if it weighs more than an M4 lol?

You cant fit 285's up front like on the F80/82.

The F80 chassis drives like a boat...been driving all iterations of them since 2014 and I've never loved the car. The M2C however feels amazing by comparison. If I wanted a boat I'd get an M6.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin

The F80 chassis drives like a boat...been driving all iterations of them since 2014 and I've never loved the car. The M2C however feels amazing by comparison. If I wanted a boat I'd get an M6.

It's a placebo effect, the M2 shares basically the same chassis as the F80/82!

The numbers show the F80/82being the better performer, Feels amazing is subjective!

[Commanderwiggin]

Originally Posted by anglo

It's a placebo effect, the M2 shares basically the same chassis as the F80/82!

The numbers show the F80/82being the better performer, Feels amazing is subjective!

Definitely not Placebo.

[saphire240]

Pros: - shorter wheel base and excellent handling make this thing insanely fun to drive
-all the mechanical sounds, turbos spooling, crackles and pops, the roar from 4K and above on the tachometer

Cons -seat belts are super hard to reach, but you get used to it

- the car is heavy, but still feels very nimble


Exhaust noise tip! I always fold the back seats down for extra sound, makes a very big difference and I've done this to all of my cars!

[natmad]

Originally Posted by anglo

I suspect you're not familiar with the S65 engine!

Weight plays a huge role in a proper sports car. The Miata ND is a good example!

You suspect incorrectly.

[Chopper731]

Originally Posted by anglo

It's a placebo effect, the M2 shares basically the same chassis as the F80/82!

The numbers show the F80/82being the better performer, Feels amazing is subjective!

It’s all subjective. Let people enjoy their cars Captain Buzzkill.

[tokki]

Originally Posted by Davil

Have you modified your suspension in some way?

Nope, 100% stock. Its pretty well discussed that the M2C has a bad case of wheelhop especially when roads are wet.

[tokki]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

What tyres do you have and what pressure.

I was at a track/driftday a month ago with the stock 788s/PSS and no wheelhop at all. Never.

With my ex 1M (PS2) I had wheelhop sometimes.

Cheers
Robin

Stock tires/suspension. Its definitely a wet conditions issue. I dont think it happens on dry tarmac.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by Chopper731

It’s all subjective. Let people enjoy their cars Captain Buzzkill.

The s65 is more fun than the n55, i owned both. Ibwish the M2C Wasn't as heavy as the M4. So no the M2C is not the best M car since the E46 M3.

[Fenerbahce]

Originally Posted by anglo

How can it be the best new M car since the E46 M3 if it weighs more than an M4 lol?

You cant fit 285's up front like on the F80/82.

Not sure why you are spreading misinformation. Per BMW, the m2c is 3600 lbs and the m4 is 3625 lbs. While not super light, I can’t think of any other 400+ hp cars with a useable back seat and a manual that are lighter (at any price point!). Plus, there are a lot of parts available to make the m2c even lighter if that’s your jam, whereas the m4 has less opportunity for further weight savings.