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      09-23-2020, 12:24 AM   #23
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Lastly. I have no partnership with XPEL. I can choose any companies film I want. They don't pay me lol. I pay them....lots!
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I am the top shop In Southern CA. I have 3 gold medals, 3 silver and 2 bronze. I have 13 years of experience. Any point I make is based off hands on experience. I'm not here to argue with anyone, push my company or products. Just share my experience hopefully for the better good of you all and help provide real world facts that may help you make a more educated decision for your purchases. This is something I am very very passionate about and my industry is my life's work.

If a car is super hammered with swirls then I would encourage the customer to do paint correction. Otherwise if it's random isolated swirls and maring then PPF will 100% hide it. Ppf will hide up to 1500 grit sanding marks on black in direct sunlight.
On a brand new car rolled off the lot 99% of people won't be able to tell if correction was done prior to a full body install. Now if it's a brand new car and say only getting the front clip and the customer is keen to what swirls look like on a dark car then it may be best to correct the back half.

As far as the different manufacturers go. I tell people the only true bad film will fit one of the following categories. If it was installed bad. If the manufacturer doesn't stand behind their product. Lastly the only bad film is the one you don't put on your vehicle! Ppf works the best to keep factory paint preserved while allowing us to rip on our cars and enjoy them without completely thrashing them.

XPEL has top notch support. They stand behind their products like no one else. The dap is the best pattern data base money can buy (only available now to 100% XPEL shops). Lastly XPEL has a really good film. It's the total trifecta.

If you guys want more of my professional installer opinion on why I feel XPEL is the best film from a technical installer standpoint I'd be happy to go into more detail.

OP- about your diffuser. For the m-performance rear carbon diffuser no one makes a template to plot the PPF. Therefore it's a fully bulk install. In my opinion it's not worth the man hours spent to do it custom and handmade a bunch of pieces for something that won't likely get damaged.

For all the super cars crazy diffusers we have patterns. 720s, SVJ, 600lt, 650 and so on. I bought my carbon diffuser from a customer and it didn't have a single Nick on it after track days and good amount of driving. So honestly i wouldn't stress it.

If I was to completely wrap one I would charge $500 and it would take at least 3 hours.

I hope that helps guys

Very good points and what I was illustrating above. You're a shop I'd want nearby. Luckily, I've lived near three excellent PPF installers; Detailing Dynamics in Mineola NY, Detailed Design in Conyers, GA and Atlanta Pro Films in Alpharetta, GA.

When my car arrives at the dealer, I typically pick it up the following day. The shipping film is left on the car. No detailing done by shop personnel. I remove the shipping protective film while on site and visually inspect. Once home I wash the proper way, cool paint, out of sunlight, foam gun, plenty of a quality car shampoo, soap bucket, rinse bucket, three quality wash mitts, waterfall final rinse, etc... The car goes for PPF immediately. If a long journey, plenty of painter's tape does the job. If I were to find any major paint correction needs, they would be addressed. Typically, that is not the case.

Although, I am an avid fan of Xpel film, I'd like to hear more detail as to why you like it.
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      09-23-2020, 06:31 AM   #25
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The top shops always require paint correction under PPF. Even new cars require paint correction. I can't imagine anyone reputable would install PPF without it.

My local shop charges around $6K to $7K for full vehicle wrap (and correction) and only uses XPEL Ultimate PPF.
What's the shop name I may use them if they are close enough to me (or anyone else that knows a reputable PPF installer north of Boston). Thanks
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