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Top Gear BMW M2 CS Review
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/m2-cs
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Hmmm... that article states that it's 0-62mph is 4.2 sec for 6MT and 4.0 sec for DCT.
BMW NA's website says 4.0 sec on 6MT and 3.8 sec on DCT. https://www.bmwusa.com/limited-editi...les/m2-cs.html Hmmm... |
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Enjoyed the review- squares with where I was with the CS. I’ll enjoy the C and see how room in the garage for the cs shakes out after peeps get bored of being first on the block. I do like the interior- into spartan and less is more these days.
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Seems like an honest review to me. Actually, it's no review praising the M2 CS - it's a review praising the M2C value for money.
A recurrent discussion on the forums: both the M2C and M2 CS are excellent cars, but on one of these, BMW has affixed an immodest price tag. "BMW M Town is the place where too much is just right". It turns out to be a place where CS is €$: it's "wrong" rather than "just right". Regardless my enthusiasm for the BMW M brand, I'm not feeling sorry at all to keep repeating this. "BMW’s run-out special editions are often eye-wateringly pricey, and it’s the same story here. The M2 CS will set you back a truly ma-hoosive £75,355. That’s near-as-dammit £25,000 more than the wonderful BMW M2 Competition – which was already a huge step on from the original M2. And they, don’t forget, have an armrest.Minor inaccuracy: "The main options are steel or ceramic brakes (look for blue or gold calipers)": on the M2 CS the brake caliper color is either red (standard M Sport Brake - 2NH - M2C option offered in silver) or gold (optional M-CCB - option code 2NK - not available for the M2C). And peculiar that the review implicitly qualifies Hockenheim Silver as "white" (but that has always been my point of view too: HS is more leaning towards white than towards silver): "BMW’s only offering three colours: blue, black and white."
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I agree with you and think we shared comments on this subject recently in another thread together . . . HS seems to more often look white than silver, depending on ambient light conditions. However, as we also discussed and your pics demonstrate, sitting side-by-side with AW is where the HS really demonstrates that it is not 'white.' Thanks for posting pics ///AVM |
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There is no 'right' or 'wrong' - theoretical' or otherwise - when it comes to wanting or not wanting the M2CS. It is your money and will be your car. When it comes to the M2CS I have no doubt you are getting what you want . . . and you will be happy with your purchase decision. I am sincere when I say I find it awesome when a fellow forum member gets exactly what they want and shares their enthusiasm. Hell, I own a M2C I absolutely did not need because of all the enthusiasm everyone shared for a truly special ///M car. . . but, ultimately, it was my decision and I am very happy with my purchase. The reviews really serve no purpose at this point for enthusiasts on this forum. We all know what the CS is going to be on its own and in comparison to the Competition. If the reviewer stated the CS sucks compared to the Competition it would be no more relevant than another reviewer stating BMW revolutionized the Competition when developing the CS. Some, like yourself, are decided upon the CS. Others, like me, decided upon the Competition. None need to justify their decision. . . although, as I have said all along, the decision does come down to answering the $25K question. The existence of the Competition is not theoretical. ///AVM |
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///AVM, I agree with the overall sentiment and pricing is pricing and every buyer has their own situation. The "wrong" comment was directly addressing that point from Artemis's post. My point was also to specifically remove the M2C from the context so that people would mentally stop for a moment and get over the 25k premium issue and instead compare it solely to others in the market excluding the BMW brethren nearest as to whether it can hold its own as an appropriately priced package. Point again being its a really really good $90k car and compares well to other ~90k cars.
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After months of forum discussion pertaining to the M2CS, it always whittles down to price and comparison to the Competition . . . again, it is a $25K question. Your view is that the CS warrants $25K markup over the Competition. . . you want a CS. My view is that the CS is an overpriced Competition. . . I got the Competition. Ultimately, we will both will be very happy with our purchase decision, which is really all that matters. ///AVM P.S. I want to be clear in saying that even though I do not agree with your view, I do respect it. More than that, I look forward to your taking CS delivery and sharing enthusiasm with the forum. |
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I'll let it lie after this, and I don't disagree with anything you've said in most cases, but it really isn't and wasn't a 25k question in my case and I'm trying to drive that home. I totally get, and believe that your view of the CS being an overpriced competition is true for plenty of people. However, when I decided I wanted something new I also decided I didn't want anything that cost much less than about 70-75k, and wanted to change up the pace from buying another BMW. The M2 was not in my initial decision spreadsheets until the CS was announced. The M2C literally didn't qualify for my search. The M2CS had to stand on its own merit against what I specifically was looking for. If the CS didn't exist, as much as I think the M2C is awesome, I'd be buying something else this time around. It may make no sense to others, as it was my specific case but the point is, sometimes there is no 25k question even involved.
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It would have been in the decision matrix, yes. Without going through my scoring system, it would not likely have made it to the very top, but more test drives on a few things could have kept it there to where it might have been a purchase option. From the outside of my head I'm sure it seems entirely nonsensical. In case you were wondering an Evora would score to the top of my non CS matrix with a GT500 or GT350R reasonably behind. But now we are way off the topic!
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Fair review. No question, this is a hell of a car. if the M2C didn't exist at $60K, we'd all be singing its praises despite the cost. For most who use the car as a DD, the M2C makes more sense. The only things I want from the CS are the carbon roof (just because it looks cool, and so I feel guilty about that) and possibly the CS engine tune. I say possibly because honestly the M2C feels as fast to me as my F80 M3 ZCP was. And certainly fast enough for a DD. I am definitely in the minority here, but I prefer not to have a CF front splitter, mirror caps and a larger rear spoiler.
All that said, anyone who buys this car will be very happy. And while Porsche is mentioned in every review and thread about this car, some of us die-hard BMW fans actually still want the ultimate sports sedan rather than a sports car.
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You're not alone. I personally think the M2CS is "overdone". The M2C is already small and maxed out in terms styling and aggressiveness. Everything just flows so well, even that tiny factory lip on the boot. The bigger, exposed cf pieces BMW slapped on the CS disturb those clean lines and look tacky IMO. The exposed cf roof I can live with, but generally speaking, I hate that trend. Reminds me of Civics with cf eBay bits all over.
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