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Well I hope you at least got the better transmission with the 911. I am on the fence with the T. Less horsepower and still a 3200 pound pig. It’s like the marketing folks are making a joke only they understand.
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3200lbs a pig? I think anything about 3200 is a sweet compromise for weight. People complain about the CS being ~3600lbs. I would gladly take 3200lbs on a modern "base" 911 any day.
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CS has a 100 extra horsepower and goodness knows how many bucketloads more torque though. Not a fan of the 992, immensely capable but not a "fun" car.
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Can totally agree to the not a fun car. Buddy had a 992 Carrera 4S and it was very sterile. His 992 GT3? That's wicked fun. His dad's 992 Turbo S? Launch control inducing childish giggles....
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The plan is not to get rid of the CS. The T was the goldilocks spec I was after. Manual 7 speed road car (I won't track), engine sound, mod cons, handling and feels special. Also less than the GTS. The plan is to keep the M2 CS but wanted a special modern manual to go with it. It will be nice to choose between them. Between them I'll be sharing daily driving so wanted something I don't need to treat with kid gloves.
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Im in the same position , thinking the next car and its gonna be likely an auto !
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The perfect companion to your CS is a full analogue car. These are no longer made. Look in the back catalogue. There are so many fabulous choices at this point in time. Get a good one while you can. CS is probably the last BMW to have some old school joy but with a modern feel. The last of the sheer driving pleasure era. It's as modern as it gets for me and my stepping stone off ever considering a newer car. They just no longer have "the fizz". |
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As again HC said on Ecoty2020 "if you drawing up the idea of almost the perfect car you've got multi-cylinder engine in the front , power going to the rear wheels , limited slip diff , manual gearbox , what more you need? I needed that Davil , its my only car now! The way i looked at it , is this , i wanted a car that would would feel special , keep it forever , the dct was great , no doubt about it ! Having owned the first M2 with dct , i wanted something more engaging , i wanted the traditional formula , i knew it was one of the last manuals , and this was no a compromise . thanks god i made the right move for me , as i will keep the car (done few more mods which really improved the car at a point that its just perfect for me ) - akra with single length midpipe sounds insane , and disabled the fake sound inside , its just so nice ) Thats the way i see it Davil , there is not right/wrong gearbox , its just a preference . I dont know how other manuals are , i personally like the fact that it revs match , its a modern car . If you want it pure analoque , just turn the traction off like the good old days , and drive it like a maniac (tho im driving it like one with mdm with rev match) But i get your point . The F87 is at modern as it gets for me as well . Now i need a E30 Touring Alpina , to have an old and a modern in the stable!
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Turn off anything you want on the M2CS and you still won't get the feel of an older analog car. It's a modern car with everything that goes along with it.
That being said, I think its MT is wonderful. So easy to drive and shift, rev matching is cool and hill assist is, well, nice to have but feels like cheating...LOL. I also have one 44 and one 48 year old car with MT's. They have crank windows, no AC, so-so heat and lousy sound systems. Every once an a while there are small oil spots that appear under them. Funny smells too. Both speedometers are currently acting up. They are nothing like the CS is any way whatsoever. Totally different. In fact, they're totally different from each other. There's just no comparing the 3 and all 3 are fun to drive. But the CS? Well, that beast wins for comfort, convenience, performance and reliability. Just a wonderful car. But so are the other 2.
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If I were to replace the M2 CS with a base 911 it would have to be a 991.1 Last NA powered base 911.
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Tech always has something better in store for us and thank the engineers for that. Does anyone even want an Enzo with the F1 gearbox? Can't even launch it 3 times before needing a new clutch. I'll take the F50 in Manual trans please. A self shifting / paddle shifted car certainly has it's place in sports car driving for me. The race track or a city daily. Not having a 3rd pedal is so convenient around Washington DC traffic. I was at VIR a few weekends ago. A new Cayman GT4 was being towed in from the track. I ask the tow truck driver, what happened, cause a Porsche never breaks down..... He said MONEY SHIFT! Personally I'm rowing gears in my M2 CS with the Auto Solutions SSK it's sublime. Haven't money shifted.....yet
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There is no chance of comparing the M2 CS to the 992 C2S. It felt boring next to the CS , no drama. Too serious. Try an older 911 .. the 992 got bigger , yes very capable , but less fun. Try a 991 ! If you are planning a replacement , get a 991 touring . Its the sweet spot. Jonny's Lieberman opinion on M2 CS vs 911 at 51:25 -
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I'm done with modern 911's. Maybe I'm just getting old, but the 78 911, the 88 Landcruiser and the M2CS are all I'll ever need. The 2002tii is for sale.
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