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M2 csl 2021 ?
Hi to everyone , i have read a lot of threads regarding the new M2CS and some say it will be at the next Frankfurt Motorshow in September and will end its production at the end of 2020. On some other threads i have read that BMW maybe make another model a final F87 version which most probably be the M2 CSL . For me makes sense since the next generation G87 M2 will be released end of 2023 which is a big gap (almost 3 years without M2 production). Does anyone heard of the CSL (heard that BMW had trademarked the M2 CSL internationally) . Is it coming as a final version on the succesful F87 chassis? If yes , should we skip the M2 CS and just wait for the famous CSL ? Artemis
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Just like we got screwed over on the E46 M3 CSL, Europeans may be getting the shaft on the M2 CSL.
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So early reports suggested the CS would be USA based and EU would get a CSL....are we now thinking/rumouring that a CSL would be USA only?
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In the first post, scroll down to the 3rd bullet point under August 2019 update. It doesn't mention CSL per se, but we can read between the lines for fun.
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Why don’t BMW/dealers do more to fuel the fire and push out little drips of info. A super dark poster showing an CSL badge or something? Sent out to potential customers or just anyone! Would cost next to northing and stop people getting bored and spending money elsewhere...I duno...anything! |
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But something like this (more professionally done) sent from BMW itself would surely stoke a very good fire...get press talking about ‘BMW (CSL) are back’
But admittedly this does look good to me as it is On the normal M2 Comp does that gauge area just say ‘M2’? |
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"We will see more limited editions, especially models like the CS and, I can imagine, the CSL (...) We won't do this for every car but I would go as far as to say that we also don't have to stick to coupes only. I can imagine CS and other special versions also will turn up. (...) We won't see the GTS sub-brand in future. There will be CS and maybe CSL. There won't be a GTS in parallel with CSL. (...) CSL stands for lightweight, CSL stands for racetrack ability, and for the purest M character that you can achieve on a car that has still got licence plates on it."
(BMW M boss Markus Flasch - Spring 2019 - source: here)
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test drive a m3cs and see if the cabin is to your liking. I didn't want to pay a fortune and get seat with holes in them and no door handle. we can make up the power bump with a map I hope
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It looks photoshopped, though. The 2 is blurry and looks raised a few more pixels than normal. The CSL text seems sharper. Last edited by chris719; 08-17-2019 at 04:02 AM.. |
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Yes, the critical mistake of the CS models is the removal of things that are silly, like the center console armrest and the door handles / door cards / missing cubby. There is no tangible benefit to that. The holes in the seats, I had no problem with either way, unless you have clowns or kids in the back seat that want to poke you through them.
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Reposting this comment from the past about the Störkantendurchlauf (= collision check) at the BMW Leipzig factory. Quote:
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One would assume, that the new plant in Mexico, built with the next generation's model demand in mind, would design a "Störkantendurchlauf" to accommodate a larger track wheelbase. Especially since a companies like Ford can push out a Mustang with 305 rear tires.. Edit: Never mind, found the answer (Yes!): . |
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The CS is built for enthusiasts and for people that want such a „more raw" car. And BMW knows that, that is also why the car will be limited in production and is not replacing the M2C…
So if there are things that you don't like on the M3/4CS and you still want some comfort, then buy the M2C…buy the car that suits you and not only because it is the latest and newest. aftercompletion BMW is not building this car for the guys that will say „why don't get a porsche for this money"…it is built for those that WANT this car, and not because they cannot afford a more expensive one… |
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