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      02-06-2016, 03:08 PM   #23
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Could we see this CSL by the end of this year? The M4 gts came in pretty quick as did the e92 gts.
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When do you think it will happen, Belgian Boy??
I got no idea.
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Could we see this CSL by the end of this year? The M4 gts came in pretty quick as did the e92 gts.
As per Scott26, you'll see a concept car later this year. Concept to Mule? Who knows.
I think the bodywork will look something like the I8.
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As per Scott26, you'll see a concept car later this year. Concept to Mule? Who knows.
I think the bodywork will look something like the I8.
Make that two:
"In 2016 BMW M will provide its first look at concepts of two models which will wear the CSL badge"

"CSL will only be available for the Coupe models.
CSL Concept car will be shown in 2016."
Let's assume for a moment that one of those two concepts is the M4 CSL.
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They're celebrating 100 years this year; I hope they'll give us more than new die cast models (3.0 CSL, E21, M1) and electric vehicles.
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Could we see this CSL by the end of this year? The M4 gts came in pretty quick as did the e92 gts.
I think so yes, one of the 2 special BMW 100th birthday cars perhaps?

EDIT: lol sorry just seen the 2 posts above
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What do you guys think will be I ncluded/upgraded in the M2 CSL? Will it basically be an M4 in an M2 body with the additions including things like CF hood, roof and driveshaft? S55, better seats and other M4 upgrades to shave a couple hundred lbs.? If so, should the price be much more than an M4 or do you think other special parts will be added?
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What do you guys think will be I ncluded/upgraded in the M2 CSL? Will it basically be an M4 in an M2 body with the additions including things like CF hood, roof and driveshaft? S55, better seats and other M4 upgrades to shave a couple hundred lbs.? If so, should the price be much more than an M4 or do you think other special parts will be added?
I expect them to take an M235 racing, keep the integrated roll bar with a body that has a carbon core like the M4 GTS, add the M performance suspension, drop the automatic and install the 6 speed or DCT, throw some meth injection and a new tune on it and add some more aero front and rear and throw some manual fixed seats in it with REAL harness cut outs , make rear seats optional, and probably add some unique super light wheels, perhaps even the comp package setup from the M4.

Price it something around 1-5 - 1.75 times the base price of the M2 so that means around 75-85k which comes in about 50k less than the M4 GTS.
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I expect them to take an M235 racing, keep the integrated roll bar with a body that has a carbon core like the M4 GTS, add the M performance suspension, drop the automatic and install the 6 speed or DCT, throw some meth injection and a new tune on it and add some more aero front and rear and throw some manual fixed seats in it with REAL harness cut outs , make rear seats optional, and probably add some unique super light wheels, perhaps even the comp package setup from the M4.

Price it something around 1-5 - 1.75 times the base price of the M2 so that means around 75-85k which comes in about 50k less than the M4 GTS.
If they make rear seats optional and make enough that each dealer at least gets one (or as long as my dealer gets one) and priced at 75k...I will jump on it. My dealer does not charge over MSRP. Hopefully the M2 I will be getting does not decrease in value too much between now and then. If I knew for a fact that the CSL was coming and I could actually get one...oh yeah, and price I would do what you are doing...skip the M2, keep the 1M for now and wait.
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I expect them to take an M235 racing, keep the integrated roll bar with a body that has a carbon core like the M4 GTS, add the M performance suspension, drop the automatic and install the 6 speed or DCT, throw some meth injection and a new tune on it and add some more aero front and rear and throw some manual fixed seats in it with REAL harness cut outs , make rear seats optional, and probably add some unique super light wheels, perhaps even the comp package setup from the M4.

Price it something around 1-5 - 1.75 times the base price of the M2 so that means around 75-85k which comes in about 50k less than the M4 GTS.
Do you remember that 2 series mule with the 1-2" lower roofline? What was that for?
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Do you remember that 2 series mule with the 1-2" lower roofline? What was that for?
I think it had to do something with the Z models?
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Do you remember that 2 series mule with the 1-2" lower roofline? What was that for?
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I think it had to do something with the Z models?
Ah, the ///Mystery test mule:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1069185
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I expect them to take an M235 racing, keep the integrated roll bar with a body that has a carbon core like the M4 GTS, add the M performance suspension, drop the automatic and install the 6 speed or DCT, throw some meth injection and a new tune on it and add some more aero front and rear and throw some manual fixed seats in it with REAL harness cut outs , make rear seats optional, and probably add some unique super light wheels, perhaps even the comp package setup from the M4.

Price it something around 1-5 - 1.75 times the base price of the M2 so that means around 75-85k which comes in about 50k less than the M4 GTS.
If they make rear seats optional and make enough that each dealer at least gets one (or as long as my dealer gets one) and priced at 75k...I will jump on it. My dealer does not charge over MSRP. Hopefully the M2 I will be getting does not decrease in value too much between now and then. If I knew for a fact that the CSL was coming and I could actually get one...oh yeah, and price I would do what you are doing...skip the M2, keep the 1M for now and wait.
Yes this is my dilema. I will pickup an M2 in the summer. But do I lease for 2yrs or buy?

Nice to have a guaranteed residual but I think it will be lower than market. Might want to buy and see how CSL pans out. Then there are no time constraints. Definitely do not want to lease 3 yrs and worry about terminating that early for CSL delivery. But then again, the lease is nice and easy with no upfront capital in the form of a large down payment to keep monthly reasonable. Decisions!

All I can say is if you're at least somewhat interested in the CSL, go put down your $500 to be the first and guarantee yours.
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It'll be a spin off of this, IMO. The rear wing, integrated with the roof line, might be a bit more pronounced. As would be some side scoops. I just don't see them spending a lot of money designing a CSL from scratch when they have the essential design ideas already in production. Just a guess.
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Carbon roof, trunk, hood.
DCT
M Perf coilovers
Ceramics!
Folding buckets
Aero (integrated not just bolt on)
CFRP rims

Don't care for a cage (pointless)

$20,000 above M2? :

Make it happen BMW
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Carbon roof, trunk, hood.
DCT
M Perf coilovers
Ceramics!
Folding buckets
Aero (integrated not just bolt on)
CFRP rims

Don't care for a cage (pointless)

$20,000 above M2? :

Make it happen BMW
At that price point, I'm in!

Do it , BMW!!!

All I ask for, in addition to the above, is a proper hood line and I get to pick the color for $5k.
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LOL that is not gonna happen... It is more easily going to be double the price of the M2 :P

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LOL that is not gonna happen... It is more easily going to be double the price of the M2 :P

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More expensive than a Cayman GT4?

I might be optimistic about the price target but i think you're way off.
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More expensive than a Cayman GT4?

I might be optimistic about the price target but i think you're way off.
I guess it depends on what they give us. If it's more like an M4 in an M2 body and/or what you listed it should be in the 70's. If it's an all new platform/tech, 500lbs weight savings hybrid it could be double...but I doubt it.
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LOL that is not gonna happen... It is more easily going to be double the price of the M2 :P

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More expensive than a Cayman GT4?

I might be optimistic about the price target but i think you're way off.
I don't think BMW AG is afraid or Porsche pricing.



The M3 GTS is aimed squarely at the 911 GT3 and no reason not to aim an M2 CSL right for the Cayman. I would anticipate 79k and maybe ceramic brakes as an option and that would be around 86k.

I do think 100k would be a bit much.
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Hi guys. I'm new to the forum. Came across this thread over the weekend while searching online for info relating to the M2 CSL.

I've been onto my dealer this morning to find out if it'd be possible to put down a deposit on...well...effectively something that doesn't exist and they did laugh at me.

Something good that came out of it though was that they contacted BMW UK to find out more and the reply from BMW UK was that the M2 CSL was just a 'rumour' on the internet and BMW had no plans to build such a car. How many times have we heard that before.
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