Interview: Bjoern Lellmann on BMW M2 Competition with M Performance Parts (FAQ / Q&A)

ChrisK · 05-12-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MR.

As mentioned in my talk, the gas struts are from the M4 GTS. Because also there you have a carbon bonnet.

Yes they are...

MR

Oh yeah!!!!!

RE-TUNE the DE-TUNE!

M3_WC · 05-12-2018, 11:28 AM

How is every post not about the US getting a smaller muffler with no particulate filter?

I thought that issue was a big deal or was it just current M2 owners doing the complaining?

Not Sure · 05-12-2018, 11:28 AM

wow the underside of that CF hood is a work of art. jealous!

dmk08 · 05-12-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MR.

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Originally Posted by cntzl

F82 GTS? Interesting...

As mentioned in my talk, the gas struts are from the M4 GTS. Because also there you have a carbon bonnet.

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

Are the Turbos the same size on the S55 in the M2C as the M3/M4? Aka is the S55 exactly the same?

Yes they are...

MR

Well that confirms it sounds bad

Hankdoll · 05-12-2018, 11:32 AM

Thanks for the great info! Are all the M2C performance parts interchangeable with the current M2 (besides the MPE, obviously)?

Tag · 05-12-2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MR.

• What’s the weight difference between the 437M wheels and the new 788M wheels?

BL: The total weight different is 3.5 kg less for all four wheels as mentioned in the press release.

MR., is this correct. The new 788M wheels weigh 3.5kg less than the stock 437M? The M performance article states the 763M wheels are 3.2kg less than the 437M. There seems to be in error, doubt the 788M wheels are lighter than the 763M wheels.

437M

788M

763M

Poochie · 05-12-2018, 11:35 AM

Smart of BMW to not put "Competition" on all the carbon fiber accessories.. That way they can be interchangeable with the other 2 series lines and not appear as they're biting.. #GiveMeThemPartNumbers #LegoM

M-Pilot · 05-12-2018, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

How is every post not about the US getting a smaller muffler with no particulate filter?

I thought that issue was a big deal or was it just current M2 owners doing the complaining?

I don't think US getting a smaller muffler. I think we are getting the same muffler just without the filter. It wouldn't be cost effective to design and produce 4 different mufflers for the same car (2 for the stock exhaust and 2 for the MPE).

MR. · 05-12-2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tag

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I will 1000% do it, and I will try to show it to you guys on camera as well.

I have trust we will make it work, especially because I will be pointing a camera on the work done.

The roof here is done quite well. I like what I see on a pre-production car.

MR

Are you also getting the CF bonnet (hood) and side panels (fenders)? If so would like to see a video of those being installed as well.

Only if the price is right...

MR

MR. · 05-12-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hankdoll

Thanks for the great info! Are all the M2C performance parts interchangeable with the current M2 (besides the MPE, obviously)?

Almost all... Exhaust, engine cover, front splitter and mirror caps don't fit.

MR

M3_WC · 05-12-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cntzl

I don't think US getting a smaller muffler. I think we are getting the same muffler just without the filter. I wouldn't be cost effective to design and produce 4 different mufflers for the same car (2 for the stock exhaust and 2 for the MPE).

The way he answered the question seems otherwise. He says the reason the muffler is so big is because of the particulate filter. So it sounds like it is built into the muffler. So essentially they are building 4 different mufflers(with/without fillter), regardless of size.

MR. · 05-12-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tag

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Originally Posted by MR.

• What's the weight difference between the 437M wheels and the new 788M wheels?

BL: The total weight different is 3.5 kg less for all four wheels as mentioned in the press release.

MR., is this correct. The new 788M wheels weigh 3.5kg less than the stock 437M? The M performance article states the 763M wheels are 3.2kg less than the 437M. There seems to be in error, doubt the 788M wheels are lighter than the 763M wheels.

437M
[IMG]https://www.bmw.com.au/website/var/t...097997542.jpeg[/IMG]

788M
[IMG]https://storage.googleapis.com/gtspi...petition-6.jpg[/IMG]

763M
[IMG]https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...1&d=1495588732[/IMG]

Good catch... maybe he referred to the difference between 788M and 763M

MR

MR

MR. · 05-12-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

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Originally Posted by cntzl

I don't think US getting a smaller muffler. I think we are getting the same muffler just without the filter. I wouldn't be cost effective to design and produce 4 different mufflers for the same car (2 for the stock exhaust and 2 for the MPE).

The way he answered the question seems otherwise. He says the reason the muffler is so big is because of the particulate filter. So it sounds like it is built into the muffler. So essentially they are building 4 different mufflers(with/without fillter), regardless of size.

Correct... Bigger muffler is only for EU.

MR

TN_3 · 05-12-2018, 11:52 AM

Can you sneak in a question about the X3M? Timeline for release and how quickly will a Competition version of it arrive after initial launch?

Tag · 05-12-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MR.

Good catch... maybe he referred to the difference between 788M and 763M

MR

Maybe, but if the weight difference between the 437M and 763M is 3.2kg and between the 788M and 763M is 3.5kg than that would mean the 788M wheels are 0.3kg heavier than the stock 437M wheels.

Would appreciate it if you could get further clarification on this if Bjoern is still around. Thanks

M-Pilot · 05-12-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

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Originally Posted by cntzl

I don't think US getting a smaller muffler. I think we are getting the same muffler just without the filter. I wouldn't be cost effective to design and produce 4 different mufflers for the same car (2 for the stock exhaust and 2 for the MPE).

The way he answered the question seems otherwise. He says the reason the muffler is so big is because of the particulate filter. So it sounds like it is built into the muffler. So essentially they are building 4 different mufflers(with/without fillter), regardless of size.

You were right. He just confirmed it. Good news for us then

boostspoon · 05-12-2018, 12:10 PM

Waaaait a second - does this MPE join at the mid-pipe?

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 05-12-2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MR.

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Originally Posted by Tag

Wait, you're still there? Can we ask more questions?

Yes, Bjoern is standing next to me

I am here until tomorrow afternoon.

MR

Are the ducts in the fenders functional or a "styling element?"

hellrotm · 05-12-2018, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by boostspoon

Waaaait a second - does this MPE join at the mid-pipe?

Yes. It is just a rear section. Further weight loss will made by changing out mid pipe.

Sideshow · 05-12-2018, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MR.

Correct... Bigger muffler is only for EU.

MR

The particulate filter may also be the reason so many people don't like the sound and the US muffler will sound different (better?).

hellrotm · 05-12-2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Are the ducts in the fenders functional or a "styling element?"

The press release says they air outlets, so they not fake.

JustChris · 05-12-2018, 12:24 PM

Awesome work, thanks MR

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