[silverado]

Seats that put you "in the proper orientation to the cockpit". Could this mean that they corrected the "crooked" seat issue?

Not that I ever noticed it as I came from a 2 series, I just know it's been brought up.

[Law]

Originally Posted by outie

Was this video really made by BMW? I find it funny when they talked about the real M engine and the long awaited M mirrors, and the mention of competition badges throughout the car. It sounded more like someone trying to mock the car.

When I saw that I pictured in my head the marketing guy who wrote the script and reviewing it with the crew behind the scenes:
"Mr. Weihretter, really make sure you mention the real M engine and guys, don't forget to mention the long awaited M-mirrors. Cameraman, make sure to capture multiple angles of the M-mirrors, here & here."

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

It looks awesome there.

Hockenheim Silver - HS

Black Sapphire Metallic - BSM

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by silverado

Seats that put you "in the proper orientation to the cockpit". Could this mean that they corrected the "crooked" seat issue?

Not that I ever noticed it as I came from a 2 series, I just know it's been brought up.

lol .. no.. it's just marketing speak.. i doubt they changed seating mounts.

[BossF80]

I wonder if Hockenheim Silver is a three stage paint like Mineral White? So far looks similar in the video...Only the sunlight will tell

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Hockenheim Silver - HS
Black Sapphire Metallic - BSM

HS got my first vote with BSM as runner-up. But the more I see HS, the more I start favoring BSM. Some I know who've seen it at up-close at BMW Welt in Munich reported that HS did not live up to their expectations ("Silver ? Really ?!"). But true that it's indoors with some spots. Gotta see HS IRL outside.

If MG would still have been offered, it would have been my top choice - no doubt about that. HS should keep growing on me - but the trouble is, that it keeps growing for me ...into the wrong direction.

[twin fed]

Originally Posted by LLNM4

Sorry Sir, the engine its not "optimized", but undertuned.

Exactly, can't have the M3/4 crowd crying to much.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Artemis

HS got my first vote with BSM as runner-up. But the more I see HS, the more I start favoring BSM. Some I know who've seen it at up-close at BMW Welt in Munich reported that HS did not live up to their expectations ("Silver ? Really ?!"). But true that it's indoors with some spots. Gotta see HS IRL outside.

If MG would still have been offered, it would have been my top choice - no doubt about that. HS should keep growing on me - but the trouble is, that it keeps growing for me ...into the wrong direction.

+1

I keep trying to like it, but am either indifferent or don't. Going to make up my mind once video reviews are out, but that seems like an eternity from now.

[M3 Adjuster]

at the 1:30 mark... our product trainer Ede specifically references that the old motor " is designated - powered by BMW M ..meaning.. a modified BMW engine... " and " the new motor is designated ... BMW M Power ... this is now a BMW M developed engine ..... optimized for the BMW M2 competition.. " as they open the hood to show that the engine cover is emblazoned M Power



it's this kind of marketing spin that makes me say.. why.. why you gotta talk down the old model to sell the new one?


that's just sleazy

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

at the 1:30 mark... our product trainer Ede specifically references that the old motor " is designated - powered by BMW M ..meaning.. a modified BMW engine... " and " the new motor is designated ... BMW M Power ... this is now a BMW M developed engine ..... optimized for the BMW M2 competition.. " as they open the hood to show that the engine cover is emblazoned M Power


it's this kind of marketing spin that makes me say.. why.. why you gotta talk down the old model to sell the new one?

Shots fired.

[ES BMW]

Originally Posted by outie

Was this video really made by BMW? I find it funny when they talked about the real M engine and the long awaited M mirrors, and the mention of competition badges throughout the car. It sounded more like someone trying to mock the car.

More like mock everyone that complained about it being an M lacking M mirrors. "Look... we put your beloved mirrors on it!"

I'm personally not a mirrors guy. I go more for the sounds and driving feel. Seriously thinking about picking up an M2 but the S55 chainsaw is a turn off.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Artemis

HS got my first vote with BSM as runner-up. But the more I see HS, the more I start favoring BSM. Some I know who've seen it at up-close at BMW Welt in Munich reported that HS did not live up to their expectations ("Silver ? Really ?!"). But true that it's indoors with some spots. Gotta see HS IRL outside.

If MG would still have been offered, it would have been my top choice - no doubt about that. HS should keep growing on me - but the trouble is, that it keeps growing for me ...into the wrong direction.

I find it quite humorous... so many people saying.... " I am underwhelmed... it doesn't look like silver... .. maybe we have to see it outdoors... oh here is a photo when it's outdoors.. but it's cloudy.. maybe we have to see it in the bright sun.... etc...

And the same conversations happen regarding THREE colors.
LBB - which most people generally like in all light
SO- (personally looks dull to me on cloudy days)
HS - (personally it is pretty much the same color as AW to me)

What it comes down to.. is whether one wants a changeling/shapeshifting sort of three stage color that really isn't the same depending on where it is.. versus strong colors like San Marino Blue, Carbon Black, Tanzanite, and straight colors like AW, BSM , MG, etc which still look for the most part the same color all the time.

Personally.. I don't want my car to look one color in bright sun... ... and a different color on a cloudy day..

I want my car to look the same way all time. With a color like SO... if someone asks you what color your car is.. it becomes a conversation.. well... on some days it's orange.. but on other days... it's sorta bronze... and when it gets dirty...

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

...if someone asks you what color your car is..

...you say it's Bipolar Frost.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Shots fired.

Any good sales person is taught to speak positively about all products , even competitors products. One should not need to slam a product or demean it to show yours is better.

This is Not even just shots fired. It's FRIENDLY FIRE!

[Cavpilot2k]

The whole mirrors discussion just makes me laugh. Like it's not an M car if it doesn't have a type of mirror that was only introduced 2 M generations ago.
Since when has the M driving experience been about mirrors? Or any cosmetic feature for that matter?
I personally couldn't care less what mirrors the car has as long as they work and don't look stupid (regular M2 mirrors don't).

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

This video made me happy: just a couple of weeks ago I realized that the overwhelming majority of BMW PR photos and videos have male drivers, and if women are included, they're just objects to install in the passenger seat. This is a nice break from that stupid tradition.

I totally agree with you. These types of videos suck!

[Cavpilot2k]

Wait, upon last watching I saw what looked like analog Speedo/tach!
I haven't heard anyone talk about this, but is that true?
If so, I'm sold on that alone! I hated the digital gauges in the M2 I drove and if the Comp has analog, I'm in!

*This may sound like sarcasm, but I'm dead serious - I want analog gauges, not digital crap.

[SanchoDivine]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

Has anyone else noticed that the Youtube button is now missing to add the above tags? There's Vimeo, But no YouTube.

It's because the button to format is unnecessary now. All you have to do is copy and paste the YouTube video url as-is and the video will be displayed.

[Jackbmw]

Pure M-arketing video focusing on the cosmetic changes over normal M2.

Low weight

Mono kidney

Her English sounds so strange on this video...

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

I totally agree with you. These types of videos suck!

Careful, you may start a #//Me2 movement.

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

at the 1:30 mark... our product trainer Ede specifically references that the old motor " is designated - powered by BMW M ..meaning.. a modified BMW engine... " and " the new motor is designated ... BMW M Power ... this is now a BMW M developed engine ..... optimized for the BMW M2 competition.. " as they open the hood to show that the engine cover is emblazoned M Power



it's this kind of marketing spin that makes me say.. why.. why you gotta talk down the old model to sell the new one?


that's just sleazy

I mean, technically it's true. The original M2 has an N55 with some parts changed by M to suit their needs while the S55 is an engine developed from the beginning by M. I didn't read that so much as a slight against the N55 (which I have had in multiple cars and am a big fan of) and more an explanation of why the two engines have different wording on their engine cover.

Remember that some of what we were told in initial M2 marketing materials (closed deck block, etc.) turned out to be false. The M2's N55B30T0 is a standard M2 with baffled oil pan, new oil drain pump, exhaust manifold, intake along with forged crankshaft, connecting rods, and different piston rings. It's a pretty extensive upgrade over a standard N55, for sure, but the engine was first an N55 and then it was upgraded by M for its new higher power output and made better suited for life at high speeds and high cornering G in the M2 so what they said is true.

[Poochie]

I would definitely hit that.. The woman doesn't look too bad either..