[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

They must want to sell M4/M3/M2 18'

Well, the same is true for other countries too, isn't it?

[JustChris]

Damn those orange US reflectors are made of lead or maybe even unobtanium.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by cntzl

I just find it quite interesting that there are these M2C preview events in several countries (Canada, some EU countries) but not a single activity in the US, which is the most popular market for the M2 per FvM. Even the pricing guide isn't officially out yet and the US is supposedly expected to receive the initial slots in production.

Maybe they want to sell more 2018s before people find out about the M2C.

[Spa2k]

There aren't that many left in the Midwest. Most dealers (except the very largest ones) have only one - or none.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

There aren't that many left in the Midwest. Most dealers (except the very largest ones) have only one - or none.

There are 362 new 2018 M2s listed on just cargurus.com. There is plenty of supply around the country, and most likely this is the reason BMWNA is holding off as long as possible. It wouldn't be surprising that they wanted to hold off until after the Memorial Day weekend sales.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

There are 362 new 2018 M2s listed on just cargurus.com. There is plenty of supply around the country, and most likely this is the reason BMWNA is holding off as long as possible. It wouldn't be surprising that they wanted to hold off until after the Memorial Day weekend sales.

There are a lot out west sitting. They're going to have to incentivize them!

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by ///M Houbi

Will be there as well!

As i understood they'll let us drive plenty of other M's, but probably not the M2 Competition. I was warned, no fotos allowed in the closed room where the M2C will be presented! :/

Albin Mächler (the race driver, www.albins.ch) will be on site and tell about his experience with the M2C

Cool!

Thanks for the infos!

I heard that we can drive other Ms but assume as well that there will be quite some restrictions on the M2C...

So see you there

[Venom]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

6MT available?

I was thinking of testing out DCT with the m2c, been rowing gears for 15 years. But I didn't love the 6mt in the 135i and I bet I won't love it in the m2c either

[RedCarrot]

Originally Posted by norMcal

I am seriously considering it now also, although I keep thinking, I wanted a smaller car than the M3, but if it's lighter, does it matter?

I wouldn't totally give up on the M2C in favor of the M3. The M3 looks and drives like a very big car. It's fast but its long wheelbase lacks that sporty, toss-able feel. Great car for buyers that need the room but it has become more and more of a luxo-brute with each new iteration. I am certain M2C's handling will be much livelier and more fun than the M3's, even though it may not be reflected on timed stats.


There's no shame in getting a leftover M2LCI either
If you get a stage 2 tune with supporting hardwares, you will already have more power than even upgraded tire size can handle. Use a fraction of the money saved on a guilt-free purchase of that fancy MPerf CF hood

[SEAT TIME RULES]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

There are 362 new 2018 M2s listed on just cargurus.com. There is plenty of supply around the country, and most likely this is the reason BMWNA is holding off as long as possible. It wouldn't be surprising that they wanted to hold off until after the Memorial Day weekend sales.

I checked for a client on Monday how many sticks were left in the Eastern Region (13 states) only 22. My math says there are only around 100 manuals left in the US and that includes any unit still in production.


Many of those units are orders for customers so the number in reality is probably closer to 50...

There's going to be a pregnant gap between delivery of the M2C and the current N55.


I'll check the exact numbers and report back Friday...

[rallybull]

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

You can buy many M2Cs with the McLaren money....

But many M2Cs will only multiply the overall weight and keep the power to weight ratio the same.

[norMcal]

Originally Posted by RedCarrot

I wouldn't totally give up on the M2C in favor of the M3. The M3 looks and drives like a very big car. It's fast but its long wheelbase lacks that sporty, toss-able feel. Great car for buyers that need the room but it has become more and more of a luxo-brute with each new iteration. I am certain M2C's handling will be much livelier and more fun than the M3's, even though it may not be reflected on timed stats.


There's no shame in getting a leftover M2LCI either
If you get a stage 2 tune with supporting hardwares, you will already have more power than even upgraded tire size can handle. Use a fraction of the money saved on a guilt-free purchase of that fancy MPerf CF hood

Your are absolutely spot on. I don't want a big car and the M3 doesn't fit the mold of a weekend/track car. It's not a true sports car anymore, but more of a executive limousine that is (still very) capable for the occasional HPDE. It's just hard to pass up when you can find a barley used M3C for the same price as a M2C, and it comes in better colors and with more options.
The only other downside on the M3C would be resale value. I doubt it will hold up like the M2C will.

A used M2 is also a good call. I am considering that. I could save at least $15k over a M2C and use the money for MP parts and tuning, which is part of the fun anyway.

I think it is going to come down to how the spirit moves me on the day the dealer tells me, OK time to order, which should be soon. I have a feeling I will order it, but will keep my options open until I take delivery. Pretty sure there will plenty of potential buyers willing to step in and buy my spot should I change my mind.

3rd option I'm considering, is staying put for a little longer, and get a used Porsche. Most of my car buddies all swear by the Porsche. I've been resisting all my life. I've never been a huge fan, but they are on top of their game. Only downside is price, but the resale is so good on them that it seems like a one time "investment" if you buy the right model. I've had the pleasure of driving my friends 981 Cayman S and 991.2 GTS......and I can see why there is no substitute. Those are still sports cars.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by SEAT TIME RULES

I checked for a client on Monday how many sticks were left in the Eastern Region (13 states) only 22. My math says there are only around 100 manuals left in the US and that includes any unit still in production.


Many of those units are orders for customers so the number in reality is probably closer to 50...

There's going to be a pregnant gap between delivery of the M2C and the current N55.


I'll check the exact numbers and report back Friday...

Also, if possible , let us know if any of the 150 M2 performance edition models are unsold.

The pregnant gap isn't really unintentional I think.. they've gotta let dealers sell M3/M4 CS and push all the M3 out the door as well. Plus there is still this M4.. which has a CF roof and weighs less , and we can make you a killer deal on these right now. Do you like MG? . Or perhaps the "OG" SO... Sakhir Orange .. : etc etc etc.

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by Venom

I was thinking of testing out DCT with the m2c, been rowing gears for 15 years. But I didn't love the 6mt in the 135i and I bet I won't love it in the m2c either

I looked it up looks like no 6MT on new 340i. What a shame!!!!

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Plus there is still this M4.. which has a CF roof

You

and weighs less

really

, and we can make you a killer deal on these right now.

enjoy

Do you like MG?

pushing

. Or perhaps the "OG" SO... Sakhir Orange .. : etc etc etc.

buttons, don't you?

[Venom]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

I looked it up looks like no 6MT on new 340i. What a shame!!!!

That is a shame

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Tag

You

really

enjoy

pushing

buttons, don't you?

LOL.. well in this case.. I have a background in sales... so I know the game..

[RedCarrot]

Originally Posted by norMcal

Your are absolutely spot on. I don't want a big car and the M3 doesn't fit the mold of a weekend/track car. It's not a true sports car anymore, but more of a executive limousine that is (still very) capable for the occasional HPDE. It's just hard to pass up when you can find a barley used M3C for the same price as a M2C, and it comes in better colors and with more options.
The only other downside on the M3C would be resale value. I doubt it will hold up like the M2C will.

A used M2 is also a good call. I am considering that. I could save at least $15k over a M2C and use the money for MP parts and tuning, which is part of the fun anyway.

I think it is going to come down to how the spirit moves me on the day the dealer tells me, OK time to order, which should be soon. I have a feeling I will order it, but will keep my options open until I take delivery. Pretty sure there will plenty of potential buyers willing to step in and buy my spot should I change my mind.

3rd option I'm considering, is staying put for a little longer, and get a used Porsche. Most of my car buddies all swear by the Porsche. I've been resisting all my life. I've never been a huge fan, but they are on top of their game. Only downside is price, but the resale is so good on them that it seems like a one time "investment" if you buy the right model. I've had the pleasure of driving my friends 981 Cayman S and 991.2 GTS......and I can see why there is no substitute. Those are still sports cars.

The P-cars experience is a must for any car enthusiasts. And it is true the right models hold their value extremely well. I owned a 2005 BoxsterS (ordered new with very few options) for 8.5 years before I sold it with 65k miles at 42% residual value in a private sale, non-inflation adjusted. It came out to $300/mo, or about what it costed to lease a Honda Accord lol. Some limited production models (Cayman R, GT4, etc.) hold their value even better although that's not necessarily good news to you.

So long as you are considering holding off for a 2-seaters, I recommend to expand your radar to include the upcoming C8 mid-engine Corvette as well. If the Corvette team keeps up the improvement trajectory from the C6 to C7 onto the C8, the latter will be epic! It is almost a sure thing to me that it will be.

It's a good time to be alive for car enthusiasts


/

[norMcal]

Originally Posted by RedCarrot

The P-cars experience is a must for any car enthusiasts. And it is true the right models hold their value extremely well. I owned a 2005 BoxsterS (ordered new with very few options) for 8.5 years before I sold it with 65k miles at 42% residual value in a private sale, non-inflation adjusted. It came out to $300/mo, or about what it costed to lease a Honda Accord lol. Some limited production models (Cayman R, GT4, etc.) hold their value even better although that's not necessarily good news to you.

So long as you are considering holding off for a 2-seaters, I recommend to expand your radar to include the upcoming C8 mid-engine Corvette as well. If the Corvette team keeps up the improvement trajectory from the C6 to C7 onto the C8, the latter will be epic! It is almost a sure thing to me that it will be.

It's a good time to be alive for car enthusiasts


/

Your Boxster was a great value. Well done. I am a firm believer in picking cars that don't depreciate as fast as the average car. I've had similar experiences with E36 M3, e46 M3 and especially an 05 WRX STI, which ended up costing me only $177/month (depreciation) over the first 4 years of ownership, while putting 12k miles per year on it mind you.

Yep, I kind of wish the GT4 and other performance Porsche's did depreciate quicker. I think part of the problem with Porsche is that they keep inflating the prices of the new ones, so the use ones seem to benefit from that. Just go on the Porsche site and configure a Carrera S for example. You'd be hard pressed to order one under $120k once you click the options you really want. I remember not too long ago that a 911 was about $70-80k. So if you bought a 911 for $90k a few years ago, it still seems like it is worth that much, because a new one will cost you $20k more.

This is why the M2 is so attractive. Granted it isn't an M3, but in it is a relative bargain when you consider the e46 M3 was about $53k back in 2001, and today you can buy the same size car, from the same brand, with 70 more hp for just $10k more. Even a frigging Cayman S will cost you $80-90k by the time you are done configuring, so it isn't like you have a entry level Porsche unless you buy one that is 5-10 years old.

[SEAT TIME RULES]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Also, if possible , let us know if any of the 150 M2 performance edition models are unsold.

The pregnant gap isn't really unintentional I think.. they've gotta let dealers sell M3/M4 CS and push all the M3 out the door as well. Plus there is still this M4.. which has a CF roof and weighs less , and we can make you a killer deal on these right now. Do you like MG? . Or perhaps the "OG" SO... Sakhir Orange .. : etc etc etc.

103 in locator...
15 for customers
10 Not produced yet.
The rest are in production or in transit

48 of them have the Z08 M Performance Package
Only 1 of these have the Z58 Performance Suspension

Need any other info

[Merstopher]

Originally Posted by mtoosexy

Did you sell the RS4? I still have mine. I cant give up the N.A. V8 Manual. Its heavy and quattro, but it's so EZ on the eyes and ears and feels terrific!!! Will probably have the car 4ever.
Adding a M2 SOON, not sure if I want the Comp with its sad colors or a M2lci that I can dinan. GT3 coming fall of 2018!

Regret it ever since giving it up...

On the other hand, I have to keep my seat far back, so two doors is definitely better than 4 doors for me (let me have that at least).

What I miss the most is the ridiculously delicious engine... the NA V8 that sounds like a jet turbine on that deep low end growl. It's no wonder they plopped that engine into the very first iteration of the R8.

Congrats on holding onto the car...

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Believe or not, I would pay extra not to have these stupid features/accessories. I would gladly pay extra $5k (or even more on top of $60K) to bring the weight down to EU spec.

So you're saying you want a M2C Performance Edition?