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Car won't know about the condition of the pads if the sensors are out...
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How does the shift quality compare to the M235i?
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Nice review and driving, Sebring loves to eat brake pads nam nam nam... Hope to catch up w/ you there one day
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If you drop the pressure you need to do a reset.... then the car will know that's the current pressure and it will not block DSC unless you drop 10 PSI more or so....
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05-13-2016, 10:12 PM | #29 | |
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Once you get the coilovers, pads and maybe some 18" rims track tires you should significantly reduce the understeer, first thing I thought when I saw it was coming on 19" rims was that car is going to feel piggy in mid to low speed turns. Dropping the cars roll center really improved the 235 quite a bit, should apply to the m2. I only get to Sebring a few times a year and your much more committed than me in 17, prob worth a second at least there on my time. I think 228 on good street rubber, 225 on r comps should be relatively achievable looking at the vid. Although you may have to wait until the fall it's just to damn hot down there after May. |
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I want one to add to my e90m so bad. Two track worthy cars is a dream
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It needs high temp fluid and better pads on one of the *least* brake intensive of the fifteen different race tracks I've driven on..Motorsport ranch cresson in Texas. It wouldn't have made 4 laps at Eagles Canyon raceway, or Hallett. |
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Great post! Very fun to watch you work the car through the turns.
I've got an m235i and you've already answered many of my questions about the M2 versus m235i. Do you have any other comments or observations about the two cars? I've heard complaints about the stock brakes, pads, and fluid in the m235i, is this a similar problem in the M2? Thanks and please post more videos if you've got them! |
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So cool to see the M2 in Sebring. I go in way too hot into that last turn in Forza trying to outbreak the other cars. Usually ends up with me using the tirewall to turn
Love your updates! The M2 sounds like a hoot!
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Awesome review, and video. I found what you said about gear changes,
really interesting. I wonder if this is something unique to manual cars? When I test drove a DCT M2 at a track event, there was less lag than the already relatively lag free M235i and the throttle response was so good that it made the car so easy to adjust with the throttle, even for a driver of moderate ability like me. Granted I only shifted twice under 6000 rpm before discovering that the engine loves to rev to redline and when you shift at 7000 rpm you get a kick in the butt and trigger the traction control light. |
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Both cars I drove were manual, and they both shifted very similarly.
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Lag in DCT cars upshifting can be nearly zero as the DCT does change gears under load (and keeping turbo boost). This is (technically, not emotionally) an advantage over 6MT cars and one good reason to combine DCT (or auto shifters) with turbo motors. Second advantage of the BMW DCT is the shorter gearing in first, second and third gear. First gear is even shorter than in M235i with A8 gear box and this leads to deliver/develop turbo boost very quickly from a stand still even without launch control.
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Nice driving!
I'll be out there with PDG at Sebring in June as well. Great group, cool low key vibe. Hopefully clear weather. Bringing two friends. One in a Nissan R32 and the other in a Camaro ZL1. I'm be in the F82. Should be a good matchup. |
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I'd also like to compliment you on going balls out in to T17. That's commitment.
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I'm Not sure if COTA is faster or not than Sebring , but OP was only able to limp his car through a day at Sebring by not running full sessions. 1M Tex runs in our top run group ( Adv+ ) and also experienced fade at MSR. Franklin Joseph is an instructor and is already going for fronts I believe. It's my personal opinion that BMW AG realizes that the OE pads for the M2 are insufficient for the likes of even mere press car drivers to drive on at the track. It seems to me that pretty much Every press invent involving the M2 driving on a track has had two absolutes. 1- " M performance " brake pads 2- DCT - not manual I don't think either of these are by accident. In the past, I also have never heard it specifically stated at a press intro that an M car was equipped with non OE equipment. Based on this information: I strongly recommend any driver beyond novice level upgrade their pads on an M2. |
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