10-05-2019, 10:38 PM | #68 |
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No issues shifting into any gear. The car is brand new. The issue was mainly with the clutch engagement. I just couldn't manage to get the shifts smooth and all.
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10-06-2019, 03:48 AM | #69 |
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OP, having only ever owned MT cars (apart from an SMG-equipped M3, and a Jaguar), I found the shift action on the M2 very notchy - particularly 1st-2nd.
It turned out the clutch wasn't disengaging properly even with the pedal all the way to the floor. The clutch was replaced under warranty at the first service, and has made a significant improvement to how the shift feels. As a side note, I found leaving the lid on the storage compartment/armrest up so it didn't get in the way of my elbow when shifting made things easier. Weird, but there you go. HTH |
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It just feels to me like the 1-2 is just off somehow. Like others have said, maybe it's the rpm's, the gear spacing, the low 1st, or whatever, but it's there for sure. The shift to 3rd and on up is butter. |
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10-07-2019, 04:57 AM | #74 |
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OP, I felt exactly like you do during my 1st month of driving. I came from a 6mt e90 m3 and that car's shift feel was more direct/raw feeling than my OG M2. I can thankfully say, I am finally starting to acclimatize to the shift feel of the m2 and am making noticeably smoother shifts. It only took 8 months of driving.
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10-07-2019, 06:37 AM | #75 |
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Sounds like it's normal and I'll just get used to it over time. That's cool with me.
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10-07-2019, 06:52 AM | #76 | |
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I could slam the STI into 2nd without even paying attention. It was an awesome transmission with an awesome shift feel(triple cone synchro.) In fact, I don’t think I ever ground any gear a single time after 3-4 years of hard driving. I was grinding 2nd on occasion from the first day to the last day I had the 135i. You have to be extremely intentional about attempting a hard 1>2 shift in that car. I will say, the times I’ve test driven the M2Cs, they did seem to be better than my old 135i. Nothing like the STI though. Honestly the CDV delete is an absolute must though. Big difference in the predictability/consistency of the clutch, and therefore the shift(s).
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10-07-2019, 09:17 AM | #77 |
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weird never had any issues with honda manuals given the light clutch...low tq motors. i only had issues if they had bad syncros.
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10-07-2019, 10:12 AM | #78 |
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Pretty much. Over time, you will get a feel for the way the car shifts with the cdv. Like I said, lately, I make mostly consistently smooth shifts, but that is because I really payed attention to the shift characteristics over the past few months and am now getting really comfortable with it. Let me also point out my m2 is not a garage queen, ie. It shares DD duty with my trusty old A4 which is an automatic. Consistent driving practice really matters. If you only drive your m2 once or twice a week, it's going to take a LONG time to get used to the way the cdv makes it feel.
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10-07-2019, 11:43 AM | #79 |
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My M2C MT has loosened up after 13k miles. I'm really happy with it now. The rpm's will also drop faster between 1st and 2nd if you're in Sport+ mode with the stock tune. Just watch how long it takes the tach to drop in efficient mode. It's frustrating.
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10-07-2019, 01:03 PM | #81 | |
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But this was definitely an issue with a clutch delay valve. I'm at least 95% sure that was the cause of my smoothness issues. The owner was in the car with me and he probably thought I sucked at driving manual because I couldn't drive his car smoothly. Then again, either could he...but he's new to manual transmissions. I told him to rip out the CDV, but I don't think he's going to do it. |
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10-07-2019, 01:20 PM | #82 | |
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i dont get the purpose of the CDVs..with all the turbo motors coming in new cars...its pretty difficult to stall your engine even if you start in the wrong gear. if you drive a manual n/a 1.6L engine, the car punishes pretty quick if you cant drive manual. |
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10-08-2019, 03:39 AM | #83 | ||
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Unless Honda is using a very restrictive valve, I would have to guess the delay is in the low 100s of ms on BMWs. Quote:
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10-08-2019, 03:39 PM | #84 | |
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even the motor trend guys say they get the fastest 0-60 times by slipping the clutch. |
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10-08-2019, 06:49 PM | #85 |
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All about what the drivetrain is rated to handle, how much you're putting down, and whether the car hooks or not. If the drivetrain can handle it, then drop it like it's hot.
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10-09-2019, 11:33 AM | #86 |
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your braver then I. i came from the wrx world, thats how are lot of guys blew up their glass trannys.
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10-09-2019, 12:38 PM | #88 | |
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Case in point is the original Honda S2000. I worked at Honda when that car was released, and for the USDM they marketed the car as being capable of 0-60 in 5.5 seconds (because they know how much 0-60 numbers mean to Americans). The problem was that the ONLY way to get the car to 60 that quickly was to dump/side-step the clutch. A normal aggressive run to 60 was more like 8 to 9 seconds. So people blew out diff's, as they should have, and Honda replaced them. You can't use numbers to SELL a car and then get upset with the owners for making the car do those numbers the only way they are possible. Myself, I drove my S2000 fast in the corners, not 0-60. And the M, well, it never even gets run hard, I have an Exige for that. And if I'm honest, I don't run the Exige nearly as hard as I should. |
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