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10-20-2017, 09:38 PM | #927 |
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I agree with the gent that says he buys to drive. That's my attitude. I plan to track my CS, and beat the poop out of it. Just wonder if any of those M3 CSL guys would have done things differently in hindsight. M2 CSL would certainly be collectable in my opinion. I don't think the CS/competition will be collectible, but I think it will have a slower than average depreciation over time. But it doesn't matter if you never sell it
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10-21-2017, 08:31 AM | #929 |
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Can I point out that the reason they said they put the non-m mirrors on the M2, was that due to the higher ride height (of the M2 vs the M3/M4) it didn't make aerodynamic sense. Let the rumors fly that the M2 CS is going to be lower now.
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Limiting the awesomeness of the M2 is clearly a theme with the car. However BMW may have stumbled onto more success than anticipated with the low-end torque and daily driveability of our N55 coupled with the chassis and relatively short wheelbase. |
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10-21-2017, 09:04 AM | #931 | |
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On the plus side we will now have a part number for a simple conversion heyo
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«We asked Al-Attar about some of the more controversial styling cues of the M2, as well, like the controversial issue with the lack of M mirrors. The M2 mirrors are pulled straight from the M235i while fans wanted the same mirrors from its bigger M brothers.The forum was not particularly impressed by BMW's choice to keep M235i mirrors for the M2: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1183594 And then there was also this 'glitch' in some base M2 promo materials:
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10-21-2017, 11:53 AM | #934 |
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Thanks, Artemis, have seen before. I remain firmly in the marketing decision camp with the improved aerodynamics as a likely very small and convenient excuse.
I'm ok with it, mind you, because the car is great fun to drive and who cares about frickin mirrors. However I never appreciate being BS'd. |
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10-22-2017, 07:07 AM | #936 |
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...going-upmarket ("Insight: how BMW is reinventing its design and going upmarket")
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Seriously though. The aerodynamics of most M cars is actually worse than the lower models, and I'm sure the 'M mirrors' indeed are partly to blame. I'll have to go find the Cd of the 228 vs M235/M240 vs the M2. |
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10-22-2017, 11:10 PM | #938 |
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http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/10/22/hi...ed-bmw-m2-gts/
Not sure why the camera guy wasn't focusing more on model with the wing??? No cage or rear seat removal yet. |
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10-22-2017, 11:43 PM | #939 | |
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It does not have a wing and I can absolutely confirm that, that car is not the GTS or the CSL. I had pictures of it's near identical sister car a few weeks ago, right after it was produced (In Garching) and posted one here after blurring the license plate. The guys who built it do not think it's a CSL/GTS and based on what I was told was changed in the 2 cars, I do not think it's a CSL or GTS either. Last edited by Gatte; 10-22-2017 at 11:49 PM.. |
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So now that I have my M2, I actually really hate the mirrors. It's the one thing that doesn't quite fit the character car. I can even excuse the seats. But I have to look at those dumbo ear mirrors, identical to my X1, every time I'm driving. If the CS has the M mirrors, then we should be able to easily retrofit. Waiting on IND.
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10-23-2017, 09:21 AM | #942 | |
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In the referenced video the (M2 Competition) testmule and its license plate are filmed front + rear: it features unmistakably the base M2 Gurney flap - no wing. The object in the backdrop next to the bushes labeled as "massive rear wing" is just a parking lot feature. No news here (pictures of this car tested on the road: see here):
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http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...st-review/amp/ " The M2 runs through 1,320 feet in 12.8 seconds at 107.5 mph. The M4? Noticeably quicker: 12.5 seconds at 116.5 mph. The reason for the discrepancy there is simple: The M2 has a higher coefficient of drag (0.35 versus 0.34, with similar frontal area) and 14 percent fewer horsepower, but only 2.9 percent less mass to accelerate. " Cd- M2 - 0.35 Cd- m235 - 0.33 CD- 228 - 0.29 Cd- M4 is 0.34 So... Presuming a BMW engineer didn't straight up lie to consumers, if BMW had placed ' M MIRRORS " on the M2 it would be even *slower * compared to the M4 ... and even closer to the M235 /M240 than it is currently. That might be a bigger problem for BMW than people on forums worried about mirrors. I mean seriously, since it does appear to be primarily about vanity for you, your aftermarket purchase of an ' m mirror solution' will be welcomed by a vendor who has no reason to care about your vehicle performance , but rather instead making it look visually more attractive (to you ). The fact that you are so incensed by the mirrors just proves that bmw was correct. Just like the folks over at Porsche , They can hustle about 15k out of some chaps over things like " ///M mirrors " carbon fiber trim pattern , ///M buttons , and ' ///M seats ' , ///M carbon fiber roof" let alone performance items. Nice move by BMW ,an ///M carbon fiber hand brake lever is probably next ! I'm actually truly amazed that BMW hasn't got "///M performance mirrors " for you .... they are totally missing out. |
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