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      06-02-2021, 06:30 PM   #111
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The market is bonkers right now. Out of curiosity I had mine appraised at vroom

2020, MT, Exec with 25000 miles: 57k!!!

Seriously?! I've had it for just over 2 yrs and logged 25k, and would be selling it for about $4k less than msrp which is what I paid.

I'm not even looking to sell. I wish there were new M2Cs left...I'd just flip mine for a new one in a heartbeat!
That's crazy. I wonder if color plays a part?

Out of curiosity, I got a soft offer of $54,700 from Vroom. 17,800 miles Black Manual Exec. 2020.
Maybe - sunset orange is rare compared to HS and LBB, for sure. Don't know how the numbers compare to white or black.
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The market is bonkers right now. Out of curiosity I had mine appraised at vroom

2020, MT, Exec with 25000 miles: 57k!!!

Seriously?! I've had it for just over 2 yrs and logged 25k, and would be selling it for about $4k less than msrp which is what I paid.

I'm not even looking to sell. I wish there were new M2Cs left...I'd just flip mine for a new one in a heartbeat!
That's crazy. I wonder if color plays a part?

Out of curiosity, I got a soft offer of $54,700 from Vroom. 17,800 miles Black Manual Exec. 2020.
Maybe - sunset orange is rare compared to HS and LBB, for sure. Don't know how the numbers compare to white or black.
SO is a great color. I ordered it, then changed my mind. I've only seen one locally.
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Bonkers is right. Vroom quote on my 2017 LBB OG 6spd is $42,628!
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Got a GT4 coming after a year wait and also a Macan GTS. You see the dilemma of the M2C sitting out. Very fortunate to be in this situation, but better capitalize on the M2C before too late.
Yeah, you may never drive the M2C! Sell it while its hot.
I wish I could! But need that Macan to arrive as a daily or I will be car-less! Funny thing, the Macan and GT4 will arrive basically the same time. Might even be on the same boat and carrier to the dealership. Will have to wait till Nov/Dec though.

Oh well, just enjoying the M2C as much as I can and not worried about putting on miles.
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Why not? What's 5-6k miles on the M2, when there is no other option. Yes, dont worry, this anomaly in the market too shall pass. Didn't you recently get your M2C, or am I mistaken?
I think he meant who would pay MSRP for a used car that has no reason to be priced in that range. Could be wrong, but that's how I interpreted. If you can financially afford it then sure, but I don't think I would even do that if I could afford it. Better to wait it out than spend money you don't need to, but that's just my opinion.
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      06-03-2021, 05:00 PM   #116
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Why not? What's 5-6k miles on the M2, when there is no other option. Yes, dont worry, this anomaly in the market too shall pass. Didn't you recently get your M2C, or am I mistaken?
I think he meant who would pay MSRP for a used car that has no reason to be priced in that range. Could be wrong, but that's how I interpreted. If you can financially afford it then sure, but I don't think I would even do that if I could afford it. Better to wait it out than spend money you don't need to, but that's just my opinion.
The problem with this approach is you deprive yourself of 6, 8, or more months of driving the M2C. Not to mention it's summer driving season in the northern hemisphere and you'd miss out on that.

I say if you want one and have the money, buy it. Market is what it is. I do not understand the frequent obsession with getting a good deal. Letting pride get in the way of having fun makes no sense to me.
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Just sold my 18 with 11k miles for $7k less than I bought it for out the door. Had her for 2 years and it only cost me $304 a month. That's like leasing a civic! Saving up for the G87!
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I think he meant who would pay MSRP for a used car that has no reason to be priced in that range. Could be wrong, but that's how I interpreted. If you can financially afford it then sure, but I don't think I would even do that if I could afford it. Better to wait it out than spend money you don't need to, but that's just my opinion.
Yes, you're correct in my interpretation.

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The problem with this approach is you deprive yourself of 6, 8, or more months of driving the M2C. Not to mention it's summer driving season in the northern hemisphere and you'd miss out on that.

I say if you want one and have the money, buy it. Market is what it is. I do not understand the frequent obsession with getting a good deal. Letting pride get in the way of having fun makes no sense to me.
So I can only speak for myself and when I buy a car, I do try and get a good deal. But my definition of a good deal is actually good value. What is the difference? Well, it is calculating the inherent value of the car vs. the car's worth. To say it another way, I would rather pay more for a car that is slightly higher in the price range, knowing I got a good value vs. the current situation where the M2C is "overpriced" for what it is. For example, I would buy a 718 knowing I got a 5% discount vs. buying a preowned M2C at basically MSRP with 6K,7K,8K, etc miles. Now there are of course limitations to how much additional I want to stretch my budget and everyone's limit is their own.

Which goes back to your original comment of why depriving yourself of X
driving months. In my mind, you said if people have money to blow, why not spend more on the M2C. My counter to that is, the M2C is already an expensive car. If people are willing to spend the money, I would suggest them to look at the 718s, in whatever variation. Most people buy cars under finance anyways, therefore, the finance cost of a higher MSRP 718 (with discount) is not vastly different from a monthly perspective.

For me, I actually do not like to buy on lease or finance. So in my specific case, I would not be eager to jump into a M2C at its higher inflated value, but instead take my time and chose a car that fits what I want at the value I am comfortable in procuring it.
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I've discovered I'm a "get what I want" guy instead of a "got a good deal guy"
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The market is bonkers right now. Out of curiosity I had mine appraised at vroom

2020, MT, Exec with 25000 miles: 57k!!!

Seriously?! I've had it for just over 2 yrs and logged 25k, and would be selling it for about $4k less than msrp which is what I paid.

I'm not even looking to sell. I wish there were new M2Cs left...I'd just flip mine for a new one in a heartbeat!
That's crazy. I wonder if color plays a part?

Out of curiosity, I got a soft offer of $54,700 from Vroom. 17,800 miles Black Manual Exec. 2020.
Location definitely plays a part.
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I've discovered I'm a "get what I want" guy instead of a "got a good deal guy"
They don't have to be mutually exclusive 😆
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They don't have to be mutually exclusive 😆
That certainly can be true. In 1993 I bought a Sentra SE-R, the darling of the automotive press for all 4 years it was produced. But the public at large didn't give a rat's patootie, so they sold very slowly and were always available at crazy-deep discounts, because Nissan didn't limit their availability. Best deal I ever got on such a great car.
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I've discovered I'm a "get what I want" guy instead of a "got a good deal guy"
They don't have to be mutually exclusive 😆
That depends on how picky you are. There may be no good deal on what you want sometimes. Which is fine for "I got a good deal" people. They'll find a good deal on something.
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I've discovered I'm a "get what I want" guy instead of a "got a good deal guy"
They don't have to be mutually exclusive 😆
That depends on how picky you are. There may be no good deal on what you want sometimes. Which is fine for "I got a good deal" people. They'll find a good deal on something.
That is true, there is always a threshold that is unique to everyone. For example, I just ordered a car where normally it goes for 7-10% off, but in today's market, the best I got was 5%. I still took it because (1) I wanted the car (2) it was still a "deal". Other dealers offered me no discount and I gladly passed until I found a dealer that actually gave me a deal.

Now I'm just waiting till Nov to receive it vs. paying for something on the lot where I'm not 100% happy. But I guess for me I value getting exactly what I want vs. "settling" for something that just closely or not even closely matching my spec. And who cares if I lose the summer driving months. Once the car that I ordered exactly with the discount that I got, I will have plenty of driving season to look forward to with absolutely no regret. But I understand why some others may be a little more impatient
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Which goes back to your original comment of why depriving yourself of X
driving months. In my mind, you said if people have money to blow, why not spend more on the M2C.
Your logic is flawed. You imply that the 718 is a better car than the M2 for all people. I would not even consider the 718 even if it was cheaper due to the lack of back seat and needing a fun car for the weekends while I can also take the little one for a drive. A 718 would not allow me to do that, so it automatically makes it a "worse" car in my book.

You don't seem to realize that some people buy cars for different reasons and it's not always money and discount related. Yes, you could be a multi millionaire and have a lot of space, but the lack of a backseat automatically would disqualify certain cars even if they are "more fun." I'm sure many of us here could afford a GT2 , but it just doesn't make sense for many of us.
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Your logic is flawed. You imply that the 718 is a better car than the M2 for all people. I would not even consider the 718 even if it was cheaper due to the lack of back seat and needing a fun car for the weekends while I can also take the little one for a drive. A 718 would not allow me to do that, so it automatically makes it a "worse" car in my book.

You don't seem to realize that some people buy cars for different reasons and it's not always money and discount related. Yes, you could be a multi millionaire and have a lot of space, but the lack of a backseat automatically would disqualify certain cars even if they are "more fun." I'm sure many of us here could afford a GT2 , but it just doesn't make sense for many of us.
Oh I think I have stated before I clearly recognize people buy cars for different reasons. If it were not the case and it was all pure logic, everyone would be buying the same thing . I only said the 718 comment to consider...true, without knowing their backstory or maybe I do and that person truly do not care for a backseat

Not to belabor the point any further, but we both agree there is no single track. And the beauty of this forum is anyone can comment on how insane a particular track someone else took compared to their own actions. And I quite like reading about it.

I'm sure someone can comment on how insane what I ended up doing, but in my mind it made perfect sense ...hopefully, jury is still out.

Now I present you with this, for people that did sell their M2C, what did you replace it with? Or are you being super patient and see what BMW brings out in the G series M2 or maybe even the upcoming CSL models?
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I am both. I always only get what I want, and I always get a deal on it. Regardless of timing, a deal can be good relative to the rest of the market.
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That certainly can be true. In 1993 I bought a Sentra SE-R, the darling of the automotive press for all 4 years it was produced. But the public at large didn't give a rat's patootie, so they sold very slowly and were always available at crazy-deep discounts, because Nissan didn't limit their availability. Best deal I ever got on such a great car.
I remember begging my mom to buy one of those as a 10 year old.
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I'm just a Bmw whore, since I was 19 I've been driving em, few x5's few 3's and a 5 all just regular models

Started with 2002 330xi, should've kept that because my kid(s) are learning to drive

Having my twin girls say this is the same car my dad had when he was a teen would've been cool

Having my teen son say he drove it in Germany (5 minutes) @ 13 during euro delivery with me and his grandfather (safely) years later can't be bought (very cool)

In short: it's not a daily, this size rwd 400hp with a 6MT is what I wanted and all I can handle truthfully, I have no want or need for anything more, keeping it until the wheels fall off is the Miller family plan

Edit: my friends have really nice cars but some complain about anxiety, where it's parked and road conditions etc this m2 is at the limit of I'm not concerned, it's ok to park on the street, it's ok letting someone borrow it and teaching your son/nephews how to drive 6MT, anything nicer it would be in a bubble IMO yes take care of it but your not going nutz about it
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Is the M2C worth selling or trading in for the upcoming M3C LCI in 2022 (or even the current M3C)?

Tell me that I am wrong about the M3C being a fast 340i.
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