[firestarter2]

Originally Posted by srleadjb

Yes, this was me exactly! Don't want M3 or M4. Will drive 235 until I can get an M2 or something else peeks my interest more.

What did you pay for a m235? Did you get awd?

[srleadjb]

Originally Posted by firestarter2

What did you pay for a m235? Did you get awd?

No I'm in LA, Calif.....No need for AWD here.

[ScarecrowBoat]

Originally Posted by Benzima

Short answer: yes, in the short run.

But, the 2 cars are different market segments. In the long run, M2 sales will not affect 2er sales.

While they are obviously quite different, the M2 is only around $5k more than a comparable M235i...don't know how it won't hurt sales.

[hpapad01]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

I don't think M has ever done that in the passed. If they do, then that would be something that would make me legitimately pissed off.

You are correct, however, they never had the need to do it. Think of all the 'S' engines of the past. Then you had the S65 V8 on the last generation. Nothing better to change in my opinion. Now you have all turbo engines. I'm with you, however, I'm afraid that meeting today's efficiencies and the requirements of the CAFE may produce the kind of changes in the future. Lets hope NOT. Only time will tell.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by ScarecrowBoat

While they are obviously quite different, the M2 is only around $5k more than a comparable M235i...don't know how it won't hurt sales.

It won't make a dent really. The M2 supply is so small compared to the M235i (and now the upcoming M240i) that if anything, those will impact M2 sales as customers move down-range.

[ric124]

Originally Posted by ScarecrowBoat

While they are obviously quite different, the M2 is only around $5k more than a comparable M235i...don't know how it won't hurt sales.

Actually if you were to equip the M235i like the M2 then the M235i will cost more. I see BMW has removed the option to add the LSD on the M235i from the website so yeh without the LSD the m235i will be less. Which I think would be a key option for M2 buyers.

[LinkF1]

Originally Posted by hpapad01

You are correct, however, they never had the need to do it. Think of all the 'S' engines of the past. Then you had the S65 V8 on the last generation. Nothing better to change in my opinion. Now you have all turbo engines. I'm with you, however, I'm afraid that meeting today's efficiencies and the requirements of the CAFE may produce the kind of changes in the future. Lets hope NOT. Only time will tell.

That's not correct, the M roadster had an engine change mid cycle. S52 to S54 and the S54 versions are much more desirable.

[hpapad01]

Originally Posted by LinkF1

That's not correct, the M roadster had an engine change mid cycle. S52 to S54 and the S54 versions are much more desirable.

Correct, but that was within the same 'S' family. Now there is chatter from the modified N55 to a possible B58.

[dammitcubs]

is the M240i ...the new M235i?