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The ER competition intercooler arrived today. It weighs 23lbs with the metal brackets on top. Here are some dimensions and close up of the fins with a tape measure. The Type III hard anodized finish is stunning and the overall pieces look really well made. They also shipped a trimmed from brace which I was not expecting. Not sure how I feel about changing out the stock brace.
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03-01-2021, 08:26 AM | #47 |
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AWESOME, and thank you! I love the way it looks, and I see about 18 fins per inch, which looks like they may have upgraded the fin pack.
I think I might return my VRSF, because that extra height (3” taller) really does make a difference. For reference, the tallest IC is the Wagner Evo 3 at 13” tall. Talk about massive |
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03-02-2021, 11:02 PM | #53 |
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Paperweight. Got it. All the data is in my linked thread. The masses can decide if they think it's effective for street driving based on the data I've presented.
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03-03-2021, 10:32 AM | #54 |
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What Data? I must have missed all those logs you posted.
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03-03-2021, 04:14 PM | #55 |
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I have a Dinan piggyback, thus I don't have a tune that would allow me to capture and post the data. Also, I never once said I was going to post datalogs. That was you. I datalog in real time with my Torque app. I posted all the useful data I gathered from my Torque app into my thread.
Like I said in my thread, my runs are real world driving. Not track driving or doing back to back to back 50mph to 140mph runs. For my tests, the car is warmed up, the IC is warmed up from street driving, and then I'd get on the highway and do a few 3rd gear runs to around 110mph. These aren't hero runs where I took my car out on the highway and got the IC fully cooled down to near ambient (which is easily possible with the EVO 1 Comp) and then did my runs. The data that matters to me is daily suburban driving where I'm sometimes driving aggressively, typically in ambient temps ranging from 60 degrees to 90 degrees. I'm looking for consistent performance and power. I got that with the EVO 1 Comp IC. One of these you'll wise up to the fact that there is no "best" aftermarket IC out there. Why? Because we all have different mods, live in different climates, and use the cars for different purposes. There WAY too many variables to consider. The data you'd need to make this determination simply isn't out there. You have little snippets of data, but somehow believe you're the authority on the matter. The fact that you get so much wrong about tube and fin ICs should automatically discredit you.
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Look, I don't have a problem with you as a person, but you have the same 'holier than thou' attitude with your posts that I have/had. I don't mind you having an opinion contrary to mine, I take an issue with you presenting your opinion as fact.
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On this log, you'll note that the WC2 never even gets close to ambient. I've noted on 2 or 3 different WC2 logs I've seen, they typically baseline 20 degrees over ambient. Maybe yours is different. Fr the rest of the post, I agree - most intercoolers will offer these benefits, regardless of brand. For the OP's usage, the WC1 is woefully inadequate, then add in the high cost of entry, and I struggle to see the value in the product from any angle. Quote:
The underlined portion: I'm actually absolutely objectively correct, and for good measure you can ask any IC manufacture, they will tell you the same thing. Hell, Even Wagner admitted that the Performance provided superior cooling than the Competition, their own data (posted elsewhere) proved that there was no advantage of heat dissipation. I'll ask you: Do yo have any evidence to support the assumption that Tube and Fin cool down quicker? I've literally never seen it outside of people repeating something they've read from their friends.
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Please, and thank you if you can. Do you now how to log? Multiple gears should start in 2nd to 4th 2500RPM to 6500-7000RPM in each gear. A single gear can be 3rd (I'm speaking as someone who as a 6MT)
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All my BM3 logs include ambient temp for the very reason being discussed in this thread. |
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03-04-2021, 11:52 AM | #62 | |
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As I've noted previously, just moderate throttle (30%+) near instantly drops the IAT dramatically, usually be 50% or more.
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They must have added it a little while back when they included misfire counts ect to the options. I probably glossed over it when flipping through them. Unfortunately it doesn't look like I can pull it up on previous logs, so I guess you have to run it as one of the dashboard channels at the time of capture.
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